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Likeicare said:
Its also not true
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So this is just a folk song and not a call to violence? So a stadium of people, every single one of them are not going to take what is said literally.

However, there are over 1300 murders of white farmers since the end of apartheid. Supposedly there are something like 4000 farms. 1/3 of the farmers have quit. And the SA government is threatening to take land without compensation.

How is that not an effort by the government to target an industry which is primarily worked by whites a genocide. They like the Israelis are not going to admit it directly they are going to use subterfuge.


Likeicare said:
Even when elon is spreading fake white farmer genocide stories he still cant stop himself from whining about how he cant run starlink in SA, its strange you cant see it for what it is
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Why can't it be both. Which it seems most likely
An effort by the black government to make things as difficult for a minority AND E. Musk trying to shoehorn in Starlink. With Starlink there will be independent reporting and may cast a more even light. If there is not a movement against whites that would be evident by spamming the same videos don't you think?
 
it would appear we have a different idea of what 'genocide' means.
You take the strict definition of killing while I see the actions of the SA government is directly hostile to the minority population and are making efforts difficult which may lead to death or destruction.

Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide​

Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
  1. Killing members of the group;
  2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
  3. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
  4. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
  5. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
The other murders are a red herring they are not directed by the government and results of individual actions. The "song" didn't say "kill the boer and if none available maybe that black guy that you don't like." It was pretty specific. The one leading the chant is/was the president of the ANC.
 
Call Me Tim said:
it would appear we have a different idea of what 'genocide' means.
You take the strict definition of killing while I see the actions of the SA government is directly hostile to the minority population and are making efforts difficult which may lead to death or destruction.
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Its not directly hostile to them though, the land expropriation act, which has not even been used on anyone yet, equally applies to black farmers
 
Call Me Tim said:
The "song" didn't say "kill the boer and if none available maybe that black guy that you don't like." It was pretty specific. The one leading the chant is/was the president of the ANC.
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No hes not and was not. Hes the leader of a minority party and was expelled from the ANC in 2012 because of his views
 

Afrikaners are not white​

 
Likeicare said:
Its not directly hostile to them though, the land expropriation act, which has not even been used on anyone yet, equally applies to black farmers
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But your position was, "there are more murders of black people and that's proof there is no genocide."

That is illogical.

And you illustrate my point, what is happening doesn't fit your definition. Which I'll accept. Now accept that my opinion doesn't agree.

Why is any targeted violence in any manner acceptable
 
Call Me Tim said:
But your position was, "there are more murders of black people and that's proof there is no genocide."

That is illogical.

And you illustrate my point, what is happening doesn't fit your definition. Which I'll accept. Now accept that my opinion doesn't agree.

Why is any targeted violence in any manner acceptable
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There is no targeted violence

Whites are massively under-represented in South Africas crime stats. Learn to read
 
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