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a group of evil people doing evil shit, and one of them is the devil himself, and supposedly the writer based them off this group

knew abt the evilness. heard plenty abt the book on that end... maysam suggested reading abt cabeza de vaca. will have to look at tab tomorrow.
monday mail days are the heaviest n i am knackered... n it's midnight

yeh that article's not a surprise. a ton of stupid n aggravating shit went on in the "go west young man!" period.
y'know how it's a trope some white women will "rescue" an animal that's mindin' its own business off a porch to make themselves feel better cuz their life aint fulfilling?
they used to do that with native kids. also orientalized them in art n shit too

Orientalized? Explain.

the colonizers lured ppl out there with the concept of the "american zahara" (sahara).
there's an entire short book on it. read it in a course back in grad school
see the front page art they even painted a feather indian woman to mirror a dot-head indian woman.
fetishization of a shiny, new, weird culture and its exotic women.

iirc dude talked abt this in one of the apache videos how didn't matter source of tribe to "preserve culture" they did photosets of random natives in headdresses n leathers or on horseback regardless if they were coastal or plains

okay i was finally able to start the book today n bro's description of the comanche at the end of ch 4 did not have to go that hard but i do appreciate it

will start tomorrow. what's your impression so far?

i'm abt a third of the way through n it's not as violent as i have heard so far. i'm assuming it will pick up. i'd never read anything else by this author but i like it so far. it's well done, n to the best of my minor spanish knowledge it's not bad. there's also a well done bit with tarot cards i was pleasantly surprised by n i'm waiting to see how that pans out. not much else to delve into n also don't know if you care abt spoilers.
i dunno. i don't give a fuck abt spoilers personally, in a sense where my particular brand of autism has never been put off of reading or watching something if i like/am interested in the concept of it n some jackass feels like oversharing the plot

i might be done with this book tomorrow... jackass post office sent most of my letters to a different town so i will have extra mail tomorrow which will take longer...

OK, got to the Comanche attack. Yeah, vivid, but... "sodomizing the dying"?

i mean i exclusively thought the description of the warpaint n garb n such was cool. i dunno if it's coming out of barbarous mexico but all the rest of that's p tame.
testing out the structural integrity of your enemies' colon while they die is not too surprising a war crime.
i grew up hearin' all sorts of shit from white kids in school "indians would sew their kids' loin cloth on" "the drums were made out of human skin" etc

Sounds believable, told you that one about commies skinning a royalist and making a flag out of his skin, and a jolly limmerick
also
"Žižka's dying wish was to have his skin used to make drums so that he might continue to lead his troops even after death".

eh, possibly my load-bearing defensiveness when it comes to the darker skin parts of my lineage but i dunno how much i buy it, esp. the loin cloth one. there are, ofc, some tribes in places with cruel "coming of age" rituals n shit but never read anything abt any tribes here that confirm.
and then there is the tendency to downplay because the slow genocide that's still ongoing. trump wants to "remove" buffalo again to drill for oil. over here if you're tribal you get all the "brown ppl were killing themselves before we got here!" from the wasp crowd while they firehose natives at standing rock and rape native women n put a strip mall on a piece of sacred land.
my initial urge is to pull out "no u" card whenever someone who's bloodline had been here for centuries takes out a wasp n they cry abt violence

i meant the drum part, the loincloth is obvious nonsense

I don't know, I'm from the Balkans, heard few stories going from ww1 (AHians invade, guy flees leaving a wounded soldier in hospital thinking they won't bother him), to ww2 (Christmas special) and modern times (guy from my village allegedly slit 1000 throats, not that he wanted to) so it's easy for me to find human cruelty belieavable.

oh i'm not saying my brown great great granpappy was out frolicking with deer n shit before white ppl arrived. there is enough horrid shit tho in said past you don't need to make up extra or over-dramatize it tho. there were statues of the flayed god, n human sacrifices, n scalpings.
i just dislike the anglo hypocritical narrative of it all, the "conqueror rewriting history." you understand this, i remember you correcting chuj abt the whole "ethnic cleansing" narrative
simply put: "there is enough violence there. there is no need to invent more." and "highlighting and over-dramatizing the 'enemy' while downplaying your own atrocities is fake and gay"

Yeah, I cringe when I see the chad conquistador meme "the human sacrifices will cease" or whatever. Oh those noble Spaniards, sicking dogs on people for entertainment.

And fuck, when someone from a stone age culture does stone age shit, it's more understandable than when it's done by the "enlightened, civilized and moral people"

more like "the human sacrifices will be in the silver mines via overworking ppl to death"
"tHe CoNqUiStAdOrS bUiLt ScHoOlS" the aztecs had schools... before the spanish burned them. and then they also did an inquisition

started the vid n the soft singing by himself followed by the "no i'm not gonna review your fuckin' app" is, as the kids say "a whole ass mood"