Look guys, I stomped this dude.
There is a difference between a lack of a belief in a diety and an active disbelief in a deity. Atheism, at least when people consider it their belief, is an oxymoron. True atheism doesn't exist because it requires defining a position that doesn't exist.Atheism is a clique. They proclaim science as their "religion" or because they probably are into S&M porn and feel too degraded that they fear or reject him based on either hostility or guilt. Atheism in itself is one great big violation of Occam's razor and is a great big appeal to ignorance fallacy ("we dont know so therefore no god").
You dont even know basic hermeneutics. Jesus existed. Most historians agree.There is a difference between a lack of a belief in a diety and an active disbelief in a deity. Atheism, at least when people consider it their belief, is an oxymoron. True atheism doesn't exist because it requires defining a position that doesn't exist.
My go-to example is when atheists talk about "Atheism is a religion is like saying not-collecting stamps is a hobby". Which, sure, that may be a good point, but only if people aren't organizing "not-collecting stamps" clubs, visiting and posting in "r/not-collecting-stamps", watching YouTubers calling themselves "not a stamp collector", etc. It's still an identity that exists on the basis of having an opinion on the nature of a deity.
If someone was a true atheist, they would never define themselves as one, because the concept of a deity is so unimportant to them that they dont even bother having an opinion on one. It's like asking me my opinion on the existence of Zeus: I dont have one, and I dont make having a non-belief in Zeus my entire identity.
This absolutely applies to Christians as well, but at least Christians have an excuse: they're fucking brain dead.
Don't know how people can argue against the fact that a man named Jesus at most existed during the time; the Italians got his crusty Jew foreskin in a jar, and you can't skin the dick of a nonexistent man.You dont even know basic hermeneutics. Jesus existed. Most historians agree.
OP's Reddit Thread for context:Look guys, I stomped this dude.
don't worry, he evidently doesn't believe in you either, neither does zeusI refuseto believe in a Jew God
I'm not claiming Jesus didn't existYou dont even know basic hermeneutics. Jesus existed. Most historians agree.
Adhominems are not an argiment u stupid monkey. I saod that Jesus not only existed but was worshopped as early as 40 AD (he died supppsedly in 33 AD). MANY WITNESSES SAW IT DUMBASSS. Celsus knew him, hated him, but still affirmed his existence and an execution by crucifixion of a man we call Jesus under the Roman emperor Tiberius was documented by Tacitis (another HOSTILE SOURCE!). Look into Origen. Bible literalism and Young Earth Creatopnists are an idea dating back to the 1960s you historically illiterate fuck. Most people didn't read it that way. Understand this thing called CONTEXT! That's why I'm IFB (independent fundamental baptist) dispensationalist. The main reason I'm prptestant (ifb) and not orthodox is because dispensationalism takes the bible from context. Orthodoxy is outdated. They believed in Mary worship (as did the Councils even when Jesis said John the Baptist was the most holy. Not Mary.I'm not claiming Jesus didn't exist
I'm claiming atheists don't exist because they are defining a position that can't exist. Either they have a very specific and defined belief that God doesnt exist (which involves some degree of faith), or they don't believe in something and thus dont define themselves based on it and therefore aren't that claiming that specific identity.
Also I'm calling Christfags for being idiots, but not because they believe that Jesus existed but because they've been corrupted by Pauline doctrine which runs counteractive to Jesus' own lessons. Paul has done more to ruin Christianity than anyone else. I prefer Jesusism.
whatev, long as you don't worship old foreskinsThe main reason I'm prptestant (ifb) and not orthodox is because dispensationalism takes the bible from context. Orthodoxy is outdated. They believed in Mary worship (as did the Councils even when Jesis said John the Baptist was the most holy. Not Mary.
They not affirmed his existence but even his miracles were documented, real or not.whatev, long as you don't worship old foreskins