wtf happened to your second amendment ?

i have my own ideas as well but reading older, and a wide variety of, ideas is not bad. especially if there's examples of how it works/ends up irl... rather fond of kropotkin's conquest of bread n the example of the watchmaker's commune that traded what they made for their goods/supplies.
i like more perfect union, but more of the left needs to learn finance n how to finesse tax code, imo

yes, unions famously got infiltrated by the mob who then cried about communists n socialists within the unions n rooted them out n then embezzled money.
have a great book somewhere abt how reagan n his mafia ties n how he sold out sag or fag... whatever the acronym is. posted it in the book thread like half a yr ago...

My attention span is too short for serious reading. And these days I am automatically skeptical of anything written by someone with a higher education.

Instead, I prefer exchanging ideas with other people.

25 years ago my views on abortion were strictly right-wing. But after I talked to enough women, I moved towards the center. Now I am both left and right on the issue.

While I believe after a certain point that abortion should be illegal, it isn't that simple.

We have to ask why women get abortions. Many do because they are poor and don't think they have the resources to raise a child.

People get more social security benefits by working a 9-5 job but why can't a mother get more social security benefits by raising a child? Isn't that work.

If abortion is so bad, why are Republicans against birth control? I would rather a woman be on birth control than get an abortion.

And I would rather pregnancy tests are accessible, so a woman has access to them so if they need to make that choice, make it sooner than later.

In fact pay to have a woman driven to a clinic or priority mail whatever she needs.

I never looked into it but apparently in some states women can't get a hysterectomy unless they already had kids. I would rather a woman get her tubes tied instead of getting an abortion.

My point is, I learn by talking to people, not parroting political talking points.
 
I used to vote Democrat and I am still a registered Democrat but identity politics pushed me away. I would never vote for a party that attacks my skin color and biological sex. If that ever changes, I will switch back, but I don't see Democrats stop obsessing over skin color anytime soon. I am hoping more Republicans will wake up and know things need to change. And I see this with younger Republicans. For conservatives, EDF is a bad sampling.

 

minty

runs bartertown
you were throwing negative ratings at me when i was doing my best to present, from my perspective, valid points.

but that opened the door for me to indirectly reference you. then you eventually directly responded to me.

please don't think i am up to my antics again. here i am on very thin ice and i know it.

there is zero chance EDF will tolerate any kind of bullshit from me - especially if I threw that bs at EDF's beloved Minty.
that post was not directed at you
My attention span is too short for serious reading. And these days I am automatically skeptical of anything written by someone with a higher education.

My point is, I learn by talking to people, not parroting political talking points.
be skeptical of my posts, then
i engaged in bantz tonight but tbh reading a variety of shit is 90% of what i do now. murrica's done n crying about perceived grievances, who's voting for who n idpol is meaningless
better to learn useful skills. whether you like it or not, expansive deep dives into shit economic policies and how they were sold to voters or backdoored into other policies teaches how we got here so it can be avoided in the future. thick, girthy gardening books explaining soil ph, worm farming, composting, and growing seasons for certain crops are important, and boring. in depth guides for plant/mushroom foraging/making your own flour are useful

ppl having short attention spans is how america got retards getting mad at article titles and blatant propaganda pieces boosted on reddit n shit that weren't even written by real people. and elon/doge not understanding why people had jobs and laying them off only for them to be rehired 3 months later because they were actually important
 
You're outrage is selective. It is fake and I am not taking the bait.

Look, I debate Democrats and Republicans all the time. Republicans accuse me of being a Democrat. And Democrats accuse me of being a Republican.

Tell me, what do you do to avoid blind spots?

I keep an eye on left-leaning Associated Press and right-leaning NY Post. Currently there is a Israel idiot going after Tucker because we need to support Israel. Whatever.

What do you do to keep yourself informed and avoid echo chambers? Serious question.
Are you talking about Shaprio or Levin? Both are failing to realize that nobody under 60 listens to their podcast and they are mad that Tucker's podcast is in the top 10 while Shapiro's is in 34th and Levin isn't even in the top 100.
 
you can't reason with these retards
i tried for years. if they're not actively being held at gunpoint in their house they won't care
even held at gunpoint i'd still be a white separatist.

to reiterate: my brown neighbors working in the mexican restaurant are working, ergo, they are working class.
the white meth heads aren't
> mfw i find out im an upper class meth head and card-carrying patriarchy member when i've never done drugs or ever been upper or middle class.
:(
Are you talking about Shaprio or Levin? Both are failing to realize that nobody under 60 listens to their podcast and they are mad that Tucker's podcast is in the top 10 while Shapiro's is in 34th and Levin isn't even in the top 100.
not just shapiro and levin, but they've been especially loud in kvetching over the rise of fuentes. tucker "platforming" nick was just the point where they crashed out, realizing they've lost the plot.
 
even held at gunpoint i'd still be a white separatist.


> mfw i find out im an upper class meth head and card-carrying patriarchy member when i've never done drugs or ever been upper or middle class.
:(

not just shapiro and levin, but they've been especially loud in kvetching over the rise of fuentes. tucker "platforming" nick was just the point where they crashed out, realizing they've lost the plot.
Like Liz Cheney, they believe they can become popular by parroting 2000s neocon politics and neither can accept the reality that both policy and public perception are always changing. The younger generation doesn't give a fuck about what happens overseas, they care about being able to afford a middle class house.


No wonde she lost her primary race in a landslide, she's still trapped in the Iraq era. Even boomers like Tim aren't falling for that shit.
 

Call Me Tim

EDF Hero
even held at gunpoint i'd still be a white separatist.
Based. Let's not hope it comes to that
Even boomers like Tim aren't falling for that shit.
I'm not a fucking boomer.

Most GenXers were feed the daily allotment of neo-con-boomer bullshit until it became ingrained. Me waking up from GWOTrance was a big shift in my outlook on not only American politics but the world as well. Many GWOTers also woke up when Obama and Biden shit on the sacrifice and enormous amount of money wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan. The (((powers that be))) are panicking because they have lost the iron grip on the narrative. They've found out they cannot effectively control the goyim when there are eyewitness accounts providing video proof, who have no affiliation with the legacy media. That momentum has not waned but increased. And if you are a good American, even better, a good person, you start examining previous conflicts and political movements. You trace them back to the source and all roads lead to the jews. To say so is "hateful," however they will gleefully admit the exact same thing as proof of their "superiority." For fucks sake.

The younger generations, spared the heavily controlled propaganda see the obvious holes in the narrative and are saying WTF.
 

Call Me Tim

EDF Hero
Again this silly assumption that if others are not for YOU then they must be for your opposition.
Imagine if you will that some outsider might just find you all reprehensible but maybe some more reprehensible than others.
Also very telling how the free speech absolutists are very eager to curtail the free speech of others and cancel them with a complete lack of irony.
'Free speech for me but not for thee'
Oh the fucking irony.
 
Based. Let's not hope it comes to that

I'm not a fucking boomer.

Most GenXers were feed the daily allotment of neo-con-boomer bullshit until it became ingrained. Me waking up from GWOTrance was a big shift in my outlook on not only American politics but the world as well. Many GWOTers also woke up when Obama and Biden shit on the sacrifice and enormous amount of money wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan. The (((powers that be))) are panicking because they have lost the iron grip on the narrative. They've found out they cannot effectively control the goyim when there are eyewitness accounts providing video proof, who have no affiliation with the legacy media. That momentum has not waned but increased. And if you are a good American, even better, a good person, you start examining previous conflicts and political movements. You trace them back to the source and all roads lead to the jews. To say so is "hateful," however they will gleefully admit the exact same thing as proof of their "superiority." For fucks sake.

The younger generations, spared the heavily controlled propaganda see the obvious holes in the narrative and are saying WTF.
it's not that younger generations were spared, the (((self-ordained elites))) overlooked a few places (like 4chins) on the internet only for musk to complicate matters with his purchase of xitter. 10's of billions of dollars, if not more, have been spent over the last 10 years trying to rectify that only to be rebuffed to the point of forcing dystopian laws and measures (such as the OSA and visa/mastercard vs steam/itch io, etc)
 
Are you talking about Shaprio or Levin? Both are failing to realize that nobody under 60 listens to their podcast and they are mad that Tucker's podcast is in the top 10 while Shapiro's is in 34th and Levin isn't even in the top 100.

It was this article. Later I heard The Young Turks (I think) mention Israel shills NYPost was going after Tucker. Fuentes is the right-wing equivalent of Antifa, what few clips of him I heard, I find him insufferable. But if Tucker wants to interview him then go for it. What they are REALLY mad about is Tucker/Owens have an audience and they aren't bending the knee to Israel. The only Republicans who I know that support Israel either spend all day watching stations like NewsMax or talk radio. All my right-leaning friends who get their news from various online sources are very skeptical of Israel. We know politicians who take AIPAC money see US #2, Israel #1. Israel is learning that Republicans are NOT as welcoming as Democrats were.


What I want is for Muslims to be in the Republican party. Right now Muslims voting Democrat is like blacks voting Democrat during the Jim Crow era. Both Christians are Muslims are conservative and they should work together. Sadly, different religions are like oil and water.

 
It was this article. Later I heard The Young Turks (I think) mention Israel shills NYPost was going after Tucker. Fuentes is the right-wing equivalent of Antifa, what few clips of him I heard, I find him insufferable. But if Tucker wants to interview him then go for it. What they are REALLY mad about is Tucker/Owens have an audience and they aren't bending the knee to Israel. The only Republicans who I know that support Israel either spend all day watching stations like NewsMax or talk radio. All my right-leaning friends who get their news from various online sources are very skeptical of Israel. We know politicians who take AIPAC money see US #2, Israel #1. Israel is learning that Republicans are NOT as welcoming as Democrats were.


What I want is for Muslims to be in the Republican party. Right now Muslims voting Democrat is like blacks voting Democrat during the Jim Crow era. Both Christians are Muslims are conservative and they should work together. Sadly, different religions are like oil and water.

i watched the tucker/fuentes interview, i found it interesting though nothing new or ground breaking came from it. mainly just a televised contrast of conservative thought through two different generations. i watched it since i was at work, only other reasons to watch would be if you have body pillows of either personality or want to farm it for clips.
 

Call Me Tim

EDF Hero
it's not that younger generations were spared, the (((self-ordained elites))) overlooked a few places (like 4chins) on the internet only for musk to complicate matters with his purchase of xitter. 10's of billions of dollars, if not more, have been spent over the last 10 years trying to rectify that only to be rebuffed to the point of forcing dystopian laws and measures (such as the OSA and visa/mastercard vs steam/itch io, etc)
You really think Musk complicated matters with the purchase of X? for the people we can't talk about - ok I see your point.
 

Call Me Tim

EDF Hero
What I want is for Muslims to be in the Republican party. Right now Muslims voting Democrat is like blacks voting Democrat during the Jim Crow era. Both Christians are Muslims are conservative and they should work together. Sadly, different religions are like oil and water.
They won't. They'll be stanchly progressive because (((identity politics))) is their only real road to political success. See Minnesota. If they can't put people on the immediate defensive with islamaphobia then they have no traction and I fathom if you dig deeper you'll see that muslims are very tribal in their voting.

Rival factions within the Somali demographic has handed the Mayorship to a jew in Minneapolis.
 
that post was not directed at you

Well, I apologize.

@Call Me Tim is cool because he is able to have a civil discussion with me but personally I think he is too far right. Him trashing people from India resonates as much as Democrats doing it to white people. I have also avoided interacting with his conspiracy theories and blanket hatred of Jews.

be skeptical of my posts, then
i engaged in bantz tonight but tbh reading a variety of shit is 90% of what i do now. murrica's done n crying about perceived grievances, who's voting for who n idpol is meaningless
better to learn useful skills. whether you like it or not, expansive deep dives into shit economic policies and how they were sold to voters or backdoored into other policies teaches how we got here so it can be avoided in the future. thick, girthy gardening books explaining soil ph, worm farming, composting, and growing seasons for certain crops are important, and boring. in depth guides for plant/mushroom foraging/making your own flour are useful

ppl having short attention spans is how america got retards getting mad at article titles and blatant propaganda pieces boosted on reddit n shit that weren't even written by real people. and elon/doge not understanding why people had jobs and laying them off only for them to be rehired 3 months later because they were actually important

We don't give other countries aid because we care, we do it to spread US propaganda and influence. Other countries need to see us as worthless and NOT want to be like us. USAID is an imperialist disease we inflict on the world.

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In Afghanistan, painting a mural of George Floyd after we murdered hundreds of thousands of Afghans was so out-of-touch with reality. It is the same mindset as people in "higher education."

I was glad when the Taliban got rid of that crap. The Taliban also gave us the middle finger when we offered money if they liberalized their treatment of women in Afghanistan. That sounds great but I know they US won't stop there. Next up we will demand pride in schools and men in women's sports. We won't stop until their culture is completely erased.

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This retard displaying the pride flag in Palestine should be beheaded. Who gives a fuck about pride in the middle of a genocide. Again, this is why Western influence needs to be destroyed. We really don't give a shit about other cultures and we think the US speaks for everyone.

Like I said, Mamdani isn't Muslim, he is a Democrat role-playing a Muslim. A true Muslim would slit his throat in a heartbeat.


Our government has too much waste at every level. Spending over a million dollars to build a bathroom. Democrat politicians only want to spend money when they benefit from corruption. Too many times I heard about someone associated with a mayor making too much money to manage a falling apart soup kitchen.

People in higher education and other institutions make excessive salaries. Harvard has $57 billion in the bank while they continue to overcharge students.

Republicans aren't as good at hiding their corruption but Democrats are no better.


Democrats say we need to do more to help. But they can't do it without corruption.
 
They won't. They'll be stanchly progressive because (((identity politics))) is their only real road to political success. See Minnesota. If they can't put people on the immediate defensive with islamaphobia then they have no traction and I fathom if you dig deeper you'll see that muslims are very tribal in their voting.

Rival factions within the Somali demographic has handed the Mayorship to a jew in Minneapolis.


What idiot demands a Muslim do gay artwork? That would be like asking a Democrat go along with white supremacy. The left just wants to appropriate other cultures, not respect them.

Muslims voting Democrat is a mismatch like blacks voting Democrat during the Jim Crow era. I am hoping down the road Christians and Muslims unite. The left doesn't really respect Islam and eventually they will try to erase it. If they are doing it to Christians they WILL do it to Islam.
 
They won't. They'll be stanchly progressive because (((identity politics))) is their only real road to political success. See Minnesota. If they can't put people on the immediate defensive with islamaphobia then they have no traction and I fathom if you dig deeper you'll see that muslims are very tribal in their voting.

Rival factions within the Somali demographic has handed the Mayorship to a jew in Minneapolis.
this is exactly it, the future of american politics literally is tribalism and it's because of the immigration reform of 1965. the united states is no longer a homogeneous society of a single tribe of like-minded people, it's now just a 'country' of micro-nations; from the somalis of minneapolis to the muslims of dearborn, from the china towns of california to the little indias of new york city.

all resources are finite and political power is no exception. the rich boomers and old jews are dying off and with them the america that you and i grew up in is going with them (for better or worse). from now on we will only see tribes focused only on their own self interests and vying to fill the the coming power vacuum with thier own culture.
 
Recently, US payment processors that are run by a bunch of NIMBYs are attempting to engaged in neo-colonialism by trying to enforce puritan views on countries like Japan. As long as content isn't illegal in the US, payment processors shouldn't care. But no, they want to make the rest of the world like the US. It is American arrogance on display.
 
Recently, US payment processors that are run by a bunch of NIMBYs are attempting to engaged in neo-colonialism by trying to enforce puritan views on countries like Japan. As long as content isn't illegal in the US, payment processors shouldn't care. But no, they want to make the rest of the world like the US. It is American arrogance on display.
yeah, that was just a few months ago. there's more going on there than just puritanism though. i noticed that most of the games/devs hit were small and indie while i had noticed any so-called quadruple-A(c)(tm) games were left alone. roughly a month after that purge, visa and ubisoft revealed that they've been in talks since early this year about doing a collaboration. visa wants to become more directly involved in microtransactions and offering "exclusive(c)(tm)(all rights reserved)" visa merch within ubisoft games. cant wait to play the next assassin's creed game and get my exclusive, limited edition ezio with visa-branded hoodie skin!
 

Call Me Tim

EDF Hero
What idiot demands a Muslim do gay artwork? That would be like asking a Democrat go along with white supremacy. The left just wants to appropriate other cultures, not respect them.
It's the left trying to get everyone to conform to their world view. The gaystapo did this to a Christian baker, dragged him through court for nearly a decade because he wouldn't bake a gay wedding cake. It's the political/legal point they want to make. The entirety of the populace will accept whatever pet cause in absolute fashion or be subject to lawfare, harassment and ostracized. Complete public homogeny is the goal.

You simply cannot do that with a 1st Amendment and why they are so adamant on selecting what speech to be banned for "the greater good."
Muslims voting Democrat is a mismatch like blacks voting Democrat during the Jim Crow era. I am hoping down the road Christians and Muslims unite. The left doesn't really respect Islam and eventually they will try to erase it. If they are doing it to Christians they WILL do it to Islam.
Long term? You have a point there. However, in the short term, if they want political power why not exploit the practice of identity politics. Once in power they will flip. See London.
 
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