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minty
minty
my favorite tidbit abt mexican revolutionary history is emiliano zapata meeting with madero n taking his watch at gunpoint n then saying smth along the lines of "now, if i were unarmed n you had a gun, you would be right to challenge me back for this, because it's yours, yes? now do that with our land" but madero was a weak liberal n then zapata rode off n raided shit with pancho villa with the most professional moustache i have ever seen.
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minty
minty
diaz sold land off for money n zapata's entire deal was giving it back for the peasants to live on. zapata is literally my favorite historical figure. he is not smiling in any pictures, ever
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minty
minty
i hate google images i scrolled down too far n found the bullet riddled pic of him...
the year is 2010. it is 4 am n i am sad n writing an essay abt the mexican revolution.
the year is 2025. it is 4 am n i am sad n writing an essay abt the mexican revolution
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minty
minty
i kinda have the urge to write another more in depth essay on mexican history...
Tech Noir
Tech Noir
knock yourself out, you have at least one guaranteed reader. i, on the other hand, will try and write a report by the next week, about two great fog salesmen of 20th century (term for frauds & grifters, as you probably guessed)
minty
minty
/cracks knuckles
/refills coffee
minty
minty
so basically, there's colorism in mexico. by which i mean, after spaniards arrived n started race-mixing there's skin tiers. a lot of the wealthier rural mexicans are still same lineage as the hacendados (plantation owners) who ran the haciendas (plantations).
i say that to say this was fine when spanish initially colonized, but when they started developing their own mindset abt how mexico should be run n spain kept sendin' over their own, these plantation owners eventually revolted n declared independence (same sorta thing that happened in u.s. tbh).
central mexico never cared much for what happened in its desert regions tbh, there were definitely ranchers there n some friars abusing the locals, but there was so much infighting the mexican-american war was mostly sidelined. that being said fun side story, i will never not bring this up: the u.s. mistreated the irish so much that when they saw mexican women bathing in a stream in monterrey they just fucking left... anyway, while coup after coup ended when porfirio diaz brought stability for 30 years, it's like saying margaret thatcher brought peace to northern ireland.
minty
minty
he crushed strikes, suppressed all dissent, n when he sold land off for u.s. investment the ppl living there would go to the city. n because he catered to the elites n was all about that rapid development, he didn't want the facade ruined so he had them arrested for vagrancy or whatever else. like, yes there are fans of him, but they're retarded nationalists that want to project the image of strength while shitting on their own, the same idiots that think the wealth will actually trickle down someday. hell, a 10 yr revolution ousted him n villa, zapata, n a couple others had huge swaths of ppl behind them. during the mexican revolution, women would follow their men as they went into battle n cook meals, pull injured out of the frontlines, bandage ppl n clean/reload guns with their babies strapped to their backs.

after the dust cleared n zapata n some others were "dealt with" (they msg'ed zapata to "come up with a plan" and ambushed him like fucking cowards), there was no land given back because murrica was already on the verge of re-invading to "protect its business interests" diaz, in mexico, afaik, does not have thousands upon thousands of followers.
minty
minty
zapata did n the zapatistas took huge chunk of land back in the 90's n had autonomous zones, but unfortunately dissolved them recently due to drug runners n human traffickers. the movement still exists but the mexican president has a lot on her plate to deal with because it has the u.s. as a neighbor...
minty
minty
also the u.s. strong-armed n ran the spanish off that were in the now u.s. after mex-american war, btw... they were "protected" in the war-ending treaty:)awesome:)
bonus pic of subcomandante marcos of the zapatistas
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minty
minty
rec'ed spic reading/audiobooking for greater mexican learning
Benjamin smith's The Dope (effects of the drug war/u.s. intervention therein)
John Turner's Barbarous Mexico
Samuel Brunk's Emiliano Zapata: Revolution and Betrayal in Mexico
minty
minty
oh, and friar diego de landa's yucatan before and after the conquest
i'm not capitalizing his name that book pisses me off
book burning fucking rapist defender
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minty
yucatan before and after the conquest has an account of this young wife out getting water for her family n the spaniards propositioned her n she was like "no i actually like my husband" n they fucking sent their dogs on her. there are actually fringe groups of ppl that still get upset at the tribe of la malinche n i'm like "i get it"
then there are ppl who left n hid in the mountains where the spanish couldn't/didn't care to reach n still pound their own tree pulp into paper n speak nahuatl n that shit's beautiful to hear
minty
minty
i'll probably watch the first aztec vid later but if he doesn't mention in all that catastrophe that when they captured a high value person to sacrifice they would give him a year of fine foods n wines n shit before the appt with the obsidian dagger ima be at least mildly upset
...also after fucking up the aqueducts the spanish never rebuilt them n they were only finally reconstructed after the revolution like there was this nice building sinking into the fucking ground n they just rebuilt one next to it after it got too tilted fuck spain
Tech Noir
Tech Noir
- colorism ~ thought that is spread out all over the latin America, something something la razza ("improve the race")
- la Malincha ~ he mentions her, and what you said, people still pissed off
- obsidian dagger ~ he touches upon human sacrifice, but cautiously, could be he has a soft spot for the Aztecs, but also, y'know, how much of it is Spanish propaganda?
minty
minty
la raza has one z n i have only ever seen it used in non racial terms. i only mention it to state that basically for the average full brown native latino little has changed over the years.
i am also somewhat skeptical of the sheer volume of numbers said to have been sacrificed per year, but pretending no deaths n cannibalism happened seems off... anasazi in the southwest had cooked human remains in their fire pits but who knows why. when i initially read whatever book it was that mentioned the prince of another tribe being treated well, like a prince, before being sacrificed it made sense.
a sacrifice should be something that would please the gods, ergo it should have that level of care and effort put into it. bathed by a virgin harem n given the finest jaguar fur bedding or whatever. i don't buy the "500,000 mass sacrifice event slaying people day n night" shit tho.
minty
minty
FUCK HE'S GOT A WHOLE 2 HR VID ON DE LANDA
i know what i'm gonna watch next time i'm feelin' too content n comfortable with my life
minty
minty
-start video
-not even 5 minutes in
"what is it with you people and beads?"
minty
minty
the historian he's talking abt name sounds familiar but yeh "ritualized execution" is a fitting term for it
ending of the video is p much my entire thoughts on the matter in retrospect. considered adding a chunk earlier on "mammon's finest looters out raping n larping as holy men" but chose to exercise self-restraint as it wasn't the point.
the worst aspects of humanity are rewritten as beneficial, excused, etc
...but occasionally there are cool ppl to find out abt, or funny incidents like the erfurt latrine disaster.
soul cleansing zapata pic
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Tech Noir
Tech Noir
i get what you mean. history is a humanist science that can dehumanize you. i'm pretty jaded, and "humans gonna human" has become my goto reaction.
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