Chimpouts in USA

[Baka]

What do you care you don't have a son or smoke pot.

I care about constitutional values and personal liberty. Its called having principles old man

 

[Call Me Tim]

I care about constitutional values and personal liberty. Its called having principles old man

That's rich. Please Ms Constitutional expert where does it exactly say that you have a right to be intoxicated.

 

[Baka]

That's rich. Please Ms Constitutional expert where does it exactly say that you have a right to be intoxicated.

Are you asserting we only have the rights that were explicitly mentioned in the constitution? Because thats false

 

[Call Me Tim]

Ok which rights are not specifically granted in the BoR -- which you have?

 

[Baka]

Ok which rights are not specifically granted in the BoR -- which you have?

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. - 9th amendment

Saying we're only allowed to do things the government specifically permits us to do is textbook statism

Also rights are not granted they are "self evident" according to the founders. Lrn2natural law

 

[umkemesik]

Windows of CNN now being smashed in

And nothing of value was lost.

 

[Call Me Tim]

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. - 9th amendment

Saying we're only allowed to do things the government specifically permits us to do is textbook statism

Also rights are not granted they are "self evident" according to the founders. Lrn2natural law

You still haven't explained how smoking dope is a right.
Just because some people like it doesn't mean it's a right.
Just because most people do it doesn't mean it's a right. (drive)
Just because some feel that they need it, doesn't mean it's a right. (internet)

 

[Baka]

You still haven't explained how smoking dope is a right.
Just because some people like it doesn't mean it's a right.
Just because most people do it doesn't mean it's a right. (drive)
Just because some feel that they need it, doesn't mean it's a right. (internet)

I explained why your logic is flawed.

You have the right to use the internet or any other kind of public engagement. It doesn't mean anyone is forced to provide it for you.

Not hard to understand.

 

[Call Me Tim]

I explained why your logic is flawed.

You have the right to use the internet or any other kind of public engagement. It doesn't mean anyone is forced to provide it for you.

Not hard to understand.

Evidently you can't.

No you don't have the right to use the internet. You have the privilege to use the internet. To use the internet it costs money. As you said, people shouldn't be forced to provide it for you. When people say, "free internet," they mean no cost to you. The service still has to be paid for. If they don't pay for it guess what it goes away. You can still WANT to use the internet but if no one provides it, and you cannot afford it you cannot USE it.

 

[umkemesik]

Justice is colour blind

Color Quence, we speak 'merican here.

 

[Baka]

Evidently you can't.

No you don't have the right to use the internet. You have the privilege to use the internet. To use the internet it costs money. As you said, people shouldn't be forced to provide it for you. When people say, "free internet," they mean no cost to you. The service still has to be paid for. If they don't pay for it guess what it goes away. You can still WANT to use the internet but if no one provides it, and you cannot afford it you cannot USE it.

Does this mean the state can use lethal force to stop me from posting online because it offends the moral sensibilities of some boomer?

 

[umkemesik]

I agree with @Baka. The Constitution does not "give rights" (despite the name Bill of Rights).

The Founding Fathers believed we had "natural rights" the Bill of Rights are actually restrictions on the Government.

Of course I'm a cannabis farmer, so I'm a bit biased on that.

 

[Call Me Tim]

Does this mean the state can use lethal force to stop me from posting online because it offends the moral sensibilities of some boomer?

Well lets see. Depends on how far you offend someone's moral sensiblities?
CP? Yeah they'll def kick in your door.
Make threats of terrorism that are credible? Knock knock flashbang
Trade/sell stuff illegal like arms/slaves/narcotics? GET YOUR FUCKING HANDS UP.
I'm not sure what your endgame is here. That's probably because you don't either.

 

[Call Me Tim]

I agree with @Baka. The Constitution does not "give rights" (despite the name Bill of Rights).

The Founding Fathers believed we had "natural rights" the Bill of Rights are actually restrictions on the Government.

Of course I'm a cannabis farmer, so I'm a bit biased on that.

If it was an inherent right to smoke pot then it would be ingrained in culture. and not something that really sprang up in Merica during the 60's.

 

[umkemesik]

If it was an inherent right to smoke pot then it would be ingrained in culture. and not something that really sprang up in Merica during the 60's.

 

[umkemesik]

Abraham "Dank" Lincoln has spoken.

 

[Call Me Tim]

Hemp and pot are not the same you know that.

LOL at Lincoln meme. You know that's false right.

 

[umkemesik]

Hemp and pot are not the same you know that.

LOL at Lincoln meme. You know that's false right.

Low/Non-THC Hemp is a new development. In the 1700's there was no distinction.

 

[Call Me Tim]

Low/Non-THC Hemp is a new development. In the 1700's there was no distinction.

male plants

 

[Baka]

male plants

I got a male plant for ya right here.
*unzips pants*