FBI and DHS Consider Outsourcing Intelligence Gathering (circumvents 1st and 4th Amendments)

[lurk]

Washington (CNN) — The Biden administration is considering using outside firms to track extremist chatter by Americans online, an effort that would expand the government's ability to gather intelligence but could draw criticism over surveillance of US citizens.
The Department of Homeland Security is limited in how it can monitor citizens online without justification and is banned from activities like assuming false identities to gain access to private messaging apps used by extremist groups such as the Proud Boys or Oath Keepers.
Instead, federal authorities can only browse through unprotected information on social media sites like Twitter and Facebook and other open online platforms.
The plan being discussed inside DHS, according to multiple sources, would, in effect, allow the department to circumvent those limits. A source familiar with the effort said it is not about decrypting data but rather using outside entities who can legally access these private groups to gather large amounts of information that could help DHS identify key narratives as they emerge.

By partnering with research firms who have more visibility in this space, the DHS could produce information that would likely be beneficial to both it and the FBI, which can't monitor US citizens in this way without first getting a warrant or having the pretext of an ongoing investigation. The CIA and NSA are also limited on collecting intelligence domestically.
It would, however, involve empowering a unit at DHS that is already under fierce scrutiny for its bungled handling of the Portland riots last summer, an episode that included collecting intelligence reports on journalists and unmasking private citizens, according to a source familiar with a recent internal report on the matter.
That leaves the Biden administration with a key question: how to address mistakes made during the Trump administration while also finding ways to respond to what critics say were blatant failures by US intelligence agencies to act on warnings ahead of the January 6 attack on the US Capitol?
"There's a tension between wanting to empower [DHS's intelligence office] to do this kind of work around domestic terrorism on the one hand and then on the other hand the misuse of its capabilities during the summer of 2020, gives a lot of people on the Hill pause {when it comes to} potentially giving them new authorities, capabilities or resources," a Senate aide told CNN.


DHS officials are exploring ways to enhance the department's information gathering within the bounds of its current authorities, multiple sources told CNN. The department is coordinating with the National Security Council and FBI as part of the effort, sources added.
"There was only limited awareness before January 6 of what violent extremists were planning through social media," said Tom Warrick, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council who served as DHS Deputy Assistant Secretary for Counterterrorism Policy from 2008 until 2019 and has decades of experience as a career government official at agencies including the State Department.
Warrick added he would expect DHS to "explore whether contractors could help them understand plots and trends" emerging online.
"Whatever gets approved and implemented has to comply with established laws," he said, noting that DHS can only use overt methods to gather information from social media or collect information that is publicly available.
Researchers who already monitor such activity online could act as middlemen to obtain the information. DHS officials maintain the materials provided would only consist of broad summaries or analysis of narratives that are emerging on these sites and would not be used to target specific individuals.
But some of the research firms and non-profit groups under consideration by the DHS periodically use covert identities to access private social media groups like Telegram, and others used by domestic extremist groups. That thrusts DHS into a potential legal gray area even as it plugs an intelligence gap that critics say contributed to the failure to predict the assault on the Capitol.

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just standard operating procedures, you have no rights goyim.

 

[.wil]

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just standard operating procedures, you have no rights goyim.

POV: You're a government contractor watching me at my computer

 

[Likeicare]

This is normal. US intel agencies have been contracting UK and Aus intel agencies to spy on american citizens for decades

 

[Sadfleck]

Patriot Act 2: The Whites are Getting Too Spicy Edition

 

[lurk]

This is normal. US intel agencies have been contracting UK and Aus intel agencies to spy on american citizens for decades

this is verifiably true, but i guess you guys just arent tranny enough for the alphabet boys.

 

[c0mp]

i'm thinking about outsourcing my shitposting to some indian guy for a couple of rupees too, tbh

 

[Call Me Tim]

i'm thinking about outsourcing my shitposting to some indian guy for a couple of rupees too, tbh

Do it. Your posting could use improvement.

 

[Call Me Tim]

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just standard operating procedures, you have no rights goyim.

JFC. Man I feel so bad for you younger people. Things are so fucked right now. Fuck.

 

[Call Me Tim]

This is normal. US intel agencies have been contracting UK and Aus intel agencies to spy on american citizens for decades

Sauce? Not finding anything on Freedom's Internet.

I know of intel agencies hiring other nations intel for local work because they know the players and lay of the land better but CIA ops operating on US soil via proxy agency?

 

[.wil]

Sauce? Not finding anything on Freedom's Internet.

I know of intel agencies hiring other nations intel for local work because they know the players and lay of the land better but CIA ops operating on US soil via proxy agency?

Read up on Five Eyes and associated programs. All sigint gathered by one nation is shared with another. Govts dont have to spy on their own population because another country will do it for them and give them all the information.

 

[Call Me Tim]

Back meet wall.

I knew of them.

Now, so many things make sense.

 

[.wil]

This has been going on forever too.

There's a secret room at the undersea fiber optic hubs that splits all internet traffic. Unencrypted communications get indexed and databased while encrypted communications get stored for for later decryption.

 

[Call Me Tim]

This has been going on forever too.

There's a secret room at the undersea fiber optic hubs that splits all internet traffic. Unencrypted communications get indexed and databased while encrypted communications get stored for for later decryption.

I knew about that. That policy started when internet/cell phone traffic didn't conform to wire tapping laws. Thanks Clinton/Bush 43.

 

[Sneed]

Remember kids
Run them over, they glow in the dark

 

[BiteySnek]

Wow, this seems really familia-oh...

Yeah that's what I thought...

LOL, FBI copy kittens... sorry Creepy Uncle Joe, but that's not the way it works!

I, as a private citizen, can start my own private intelligence agency... but you don't get to do that, because you're the fuckin government! Further, any information that's shared, from ANY private intelligence agency... yeah, their discretion... not yours!

Just another fun "strange think"... but uh... you know, yesterday when I was high and talking about this, the one thing I didn't talk about was how often my words are stolen out of context. Like in this situation where the government sees me say something new and exciting and then they immediately try and twist into something they can manipulate/corrupt.

It's like... it's your nature... corruption. You take everything within your world, everything you're exposed to and your immediate human response is to try and bastardize it into something you can rape for your own personal twisted self-serving ideology.

 

[Branman65]

I hope that all the politicians in DC are massacred