Guns and military vehicles
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ZhouPing
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nice gun why dont they make a gun like this on the 98 platform.
Probably because the "sports" angle would be less credible with big calibers. Will have to settle for the "big game hunting" route.
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MAUSER 98 Magnum Expert | 80112510
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Call Me Tim
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Gimmick gun.
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c0mp
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It's Kel-Tec, are you surprised
Call Me Tim
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They like to push the bullpup config. Eh it has it's advantages I suppose, but still don't like the idea of a hot reciprocating bolt and spent hot brass in my face. Kel-Tec supposedly has solved the problem by having the shells eject at a 4 oclock position. Eh. still no thanks. Everything is so "space-y" too techni-cool for me. Even their traditional set ups are engineered to be folding so it's extra cool and they made radical changes to the frame to do so so everything seems to be propriety except for the perhaps the trigger, forestock, barrel and muzzle devices. These are just initial observations and wholly based on initial inspection. They may not carry as much weight when in actual use.
For example their shorty carbines-folders, yeah that's cool and all but do you really need to fold the carbine to save that much space? My 10.5 AR pistol is short enough to fit in a back pack so what's the point? I don't know why there is such a trend or want make SBR's and braced pistols to take the space of a large pistol like a 500. If you need something that concealable, you have a solution for that -- a fucking pistol. (edit- I'm not saying someone can't buy what they what. Fuck no. but it seems guns like that, gimmick guns -- Desert Eagle .50 cal for example, seem to turn into safe queens. They are fired a dozen or so times once bought, cleaned and then put into the safe and left there. -- What's the point? Just to have? OK you're a collector, so then why do I always see the same "collector" selling that "collectable?")
(My latest build.)
About their latest 50 round pistol. Eh. It's a gimmic gun because it uses a 50 round magazine. This seems to be for the retard that thinks they are John Wick minus the reloading skills of Keanu. Fucking no. With pistols, especially, you need everything to be second nature. It needs to be the same feel, and general same weight hell even the type of ammo can change your shooting grip and stance. (if you're using +p or not.) So the idea of using a magazine which runs the length of the pistol, and as you use up ammunition the front gets lighter and shifts the weight more back onto your wrists, one can see how that would make you less accurate in a rapid fire situation. If you are taking your time with each shot say, one shot every half to one second or so, this may not be an issue. However, if you need to send a shitton of hate down range in rapid fashion, it looks like you're going to send a third to half sailing over their heads. And it's extended capacity is nulified. It will be less effective than a glock 30 round stick.
So then the Kel-Tec is just a really expensive noise maker that just may get you killed. But then again if you train with it regularly and a lot, I mean a fucking lot. Like 2000 rounds a month or so, you'll be able to compensate for it's peculiarities. Me, I'm not that rich or pew-pew-y. I'm no Jerry Miculek. I dont' know a lot of platforms and the AR is the one I'm most comfortable with, that and bolt action rifles. I want something simple, and something that runs. Sadly AR platforms are still suffering from the "you gotta keep them pristine, because of one little carbon fleck in the ejector or in the firing pin housing will make the gun in operative."
Fucking no. Oil it and go. But put the oil where it's needed. on the parts where the bolt rides within the upper, the rings and maybe a drop down the firing pin hole. Don't put oil in the gas key. Don't fucking bathe the entire BCG in oil, Don't dump oil the trigger group, don't put oil into the gas tube, leave an excessively wet barrel, don't oil the take down pins, don't dump oil down the buffer tube, etc. Just where it's needed. The BCG slides, rings and maybe the firing pin hole. There yeah you can get a little sloppy. That doesn't mean you can skip cleaning altogether, it's just that you don't have to break down the platform every 120 rounds or so.
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Call Me Tim
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And I'm about 400 rounds into this particular pistol set up. And runs like a champ. (yet to be cleaned) Only problem is the cheap magazine feed problems. Midway AR stoner mags are something less than desired. But replace the spring and boom better than new. Nice metal mag that will run in every ar platform no matter the make, unlike Pmags.
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Call Me Tim
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Bullpups are an inelegant solution to a problem; a problem that can be solved by short stocking.
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.wil
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It would be okay if you already had P90 mags laying around and can afford to shoot the $1.50+ a round 5.7x28
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/5.7x28mm
Ill continue to stockpile useful ammo thx
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/5.7x28mm
Ill continue to stockpile useful ammo thx
Call Me Tim
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the selling point of 5.7x28 is it's armor piercing capabilities due to it's consistent 3800-4000 fps (1219mps in globohomo units.) You're just not going to get that velocity from what looks like a 7 inch barrel.
Call Me Tim
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Yeah, I'm not really all that familiar with this particular format. I think the 5.7x25 was/is an attempt to return to the performance of the original M16 platform. The original M16's had 36 grain bullets and traveled 4K feet/sec. Which made the High Command brass ejaculate because cheaper and soldier could carry more bullets. I'm not all too sure, but I think at that speed it would penetrate body armor of the time and I think it was something like a level 2. (I was trained by a couple contractors that were Viet Vets while in Iraq, and they had been issued the same body armor they got in VietNam. They bitched that flies went through it.) But they quickly found out that light rounds like a 22 will deflect instead of pushing through brush, Vietnam was known to have a bush or two. So the rounds got heavier and slower. And at the end of VietNam I think they settled on 55gr. I think they stepped it up to 62gr to help with actual penetration of very light armor and improve long distance stabilization.
But the real problem with light bullets like the 22 and others, is their low bullet coefficient. They just don't have any mass that helps overcome air resistance. Which is why the Army and Marines are looking at larger calibers. I don't know if they made any progress in selecting a future caliber because this sort of decision is worth 100's of millions and everyone is jacking off the brass in effort to land the contract.
Call Me Tim
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Careful with that front sight. With enough cross wind you could generate lift.
c0mp
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3D-printed weapons have quite the aesthetic, check out the DetDisp FGC-9, here's one variant
As the name suggests, it fires 9mm bullets, the FGC part stands for "fuck gun control"
You could print this thing with a standard $300 3D-printer, everything needed for this thing can literally be found in the clear web.
Quite a nightmare for ATF agents, I'd imagine lol
As the name suggests, it fires 9mm bullets, the FGC part stands for "fuck gun control"
You could print this thing with a standard $300 3D-printer, everything needed for this thing can literally be found in the clear web.
Quite a nightmare for ATF agents, I'd imagine lol
Call Me Tim
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All internal gun parts like bolts, springs, triggers, etc., can be found on any gunstore site. Gun building/repair is a thing in Merica.
Dunno about the plastic(?) buffer tube. Seems like a very weak point there. Plus, I would be concerned on how well the grip would take abuse. If you're running around and banging this thing around would the grip loosen up because the plastic threads would stretch? (unlikely maybe ok but, eh metal > plastic)
If this is is your SHTF bug out gun. Ok. But I would, me personally would want something made of something more robust. I want something that I'm not going to worry about warping in the southwest desert sun. It does get hot here and the sun is up for 14 hours a day. So.... yeah. Not to mention the UV is brutal. Plastics don't hold up against UV. The point is you're gonna spend about 600-1200 building this thing either in plastic or metal.
Oddly AR platforms/AR build kits are not what are proliferating the underworld. I mean I know there are a few people "who probably shouldn't build these things" but, Bill of Rights blah blah blah, but as far as I understand the ATF is more worried about Glock clones being manufactured, due to the obvious concealability, but lumping in AR's because why not. (What the politburo wants, the politburo gets, yah kommrade?) And that is what the stink is about with "ghost guns" and the ATF. Oddly, guns with serial numbers that are obliterated, which is also illegal, are considered ghost guns. So the term is being used misleadingly.
However, this:
www.fox2detroit.com
How retarded do you have to be to let your customers test fire your product in your backyard.
I mean ok it should work but it's fucking clunky looking.
All internal gun parts like bolts, springs, triggers, etc., can be found on any gunstore site. Gun building/repair is a thing in Merica.
Dunno about the plastic(?) buffer tube. Seems like a very weak point there. Plus, I would be concerned on how well the grip would take abuse. If you're running around and banging this thing around would the grip loosen up because the plastic threads would stretch? (unlikely maybe ok but, eh metal > plastic)
If this is is your SHTF bug out gun. Ok. But I would, me personally would want something made of something more robust. I want something that I'm not going to worry about warping in the southwest desert sun. It does get hot here and the sun is up for 14 hours a day. So.... yeah. Not to mention the UV is brutal. Plastics don't hold up against UV. The point is you're gonna spend about 600-1200 building this thing either in plastic or metal.
Oddly AR platforms/AR build kits are not what are proliferating the underworld. I mean I know there are a few people "who probably shouldn't build these things" but, Bill of Rights blah blah blah, but as far as I understand the ATF is more worried about Glock clones being manufactured, due to the obvious concealability, but lumping in AR's because why not. (What the politburo wants, the politburo gets, yah kommrade?) And that is what the stink is about with "ghost guns" and the ATF. Oddly, guns with serial numbers that are obliterated, which is also illegal, are considered ghost guns. So the term is being used misleadingly.
However, this:
Shot spotter software leads Detroit police to bust of gun making operation by gang
It works like this - the company installs a system of sensors that detect the sound of gunfire and alerts police. It brought them to the 19000 block of Hoyt and there they found 75 shell casings in the backyards of one of the houses.
How retarded do you have to be to let your customers test fire your product in your backyard.
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