detailed tech faggotry in the following video.
Open AI's newest model tried to escape, then lied about it.
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Didnt watch but how far off is skynet
Call Me Tim
Dramacrat
About three years now. I suspect it will go live just before the end of Trump's term.
china is already fielding AI controlled drone swarms.
china is already fielding AI controlled drone swarms.
right now hardware and power consumption are current bottlenecks. these things require a small city's worth of infrastructure and consume even more electricity just to run. just for comparison, california has rolling black outs due to 12+ million EVs.
Call Me Tim
Dramacrat
That and they shut down two nuke plants because tidal wave in Japan, and have destroyed three? hydro electric dams, because environment.
>people think AI is conscious
>people don't realize AI is just a tool backed by human knowledge and is about as conscious as "The Mechanical Turk"
AI won't kill us anymore than a hammer could. Which, yes, a hammer can kill, but only because of the human wielding it. It can't do it on its own.
>people don't realize AI is just a tool backed by human knowledge and is about as conscious as "The Mechanical Turk"
AI won't kill us anymore than a hammer could. Which, yes, a hammer can kill, but only because of the human wielding it. It can't do it on its own.
that's just typical californian mismanagement.
I dunno where you live in California but we haven't had rolling blackouts/brownouts in ages.
That said I wish they would stop fearmongering about nuclear power plants: it pisses me off to hear people be all like "we need to save the environment!" only to be like "naw bro, nuclear power is evil and wrong and we should shut down all the nuclear power plants" as if coal or gas is any safer for the environment. I mean, how often do you hear about coal ash spills that destroy hundreds of square miles of nature? Are you telling me this shit is still safer than nuclear power?!
* https://www.cerc.usgs.gov/orda_docs/CaseDetails?ID=984
And don't get me started on the goddamned hippies that resist wind power because they may accidentally kill birds. So birds are more important than, I dunno, EVERYTHING ELSE because we refused to utilize cleaner energy?!
im actually for nuclear power, more efficient and potentially cheaper when at scale even in spite of all the red tape. ive noticed there's been some talk about thorium reactors again, whats going on there? ive never looked into it yet.
Call Me Tim
Dramacrat
How dare you sir. That's bigoted. I would say that's exceptional mismanagement.
Call Me Tim
Dramacrat
Not if you have systems run by AI which directly affect people. For example, if AI ran the banking industry, (never happen, because jooz) AI could lock you out and you would lose your abode. Or how about downloading CP to your puter and then calling the cops on you. Breakfast-rape. Not a good way to start the day I would think.
Or what the military is hoping to use AI for control and coordination of drone strikes (see china, supposedly already has it. Doubtful on effectiveness though becasue China) Supposedly we already have drone fighters. Interceptors flown by AI. What that means is the planes are no longer "restricted" by human pilots. 9G turns being the max for human pilots, AI pilots would not have those restrictions. The strength of the airframe and engine thrust would then be the limits. Imagine being a human pilot and watching an AI plane do a 12G Immelmann. And you're supposed to stop that.
like i said, typical californian mismanagement.
I don't see that happening for the same reason it has never happened in the last 50 years of computers:
- nothing in that time has stopped programmers from designing code for banks that could easily and automatically lock people out of their accounts for no reason after a user triggers a few conditions/flags. Whether or not people think it hasn't happened yet because of ((((((LE JOOOOZ)))))))), AI would not change that
- Someone could just as easily write malware that downloads CP to frame someone just the same, but anyone with brain cells would understand that it's the fault of the malware, not the poor sucker. AI would not change that—it would simply automate the process. In fact, if AI were capable of finding CP for blackmail purposes, it would actually make it easier for authorities to also find and eliminate CP as well. Ironically, AI would actually make it harder to pull this off than easier.
tale as old as time. the march of automation always creates cycles of unrest with groups that refuse to adapt as it grinds those who refuse to move under its massive wheels.
The funniest part about how blood greases the gears of progress is that the people who complain about this almost always ignore or forget or otherwise don't give two shits about those who stood in it's way in the past. It's not that they don't know the brave nameless souls who were fed into the machine, it's that they don't care to AT ALL because acknowledging that they may have been correct to resist means accepting that the Amish might be onto something. (Or maybe we're all better going back into the oceans that spawned us to begin with.)
No, it won't be different this time. People will be ground up and the future people fighting the machine of their time wouldn't take the time to know who they are either, because they're quite comfortable with the lives that progress gave them this far and that was all OK... except THIS TIME it's gone too far.
That said, the very VERY few who would take the time to know that history are the REAL ones. Shout out to them for putting their money where their mouth is.
the industrial revolution and its consequences has been a disaster for the human race. ~ted
No idea is as absurd as the idea of progress. ~evola
YEAH LET'S GO FULL ANPRIM
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>technology is BAD
Says the guy using technology to promote that idea.
>except for the technology that keeps me alive and entertained like agriculture and written language
Here's the $1 million question: if something is a disaster for the human race, then what ISN'T a disaster? Ted claimed that decentralized technology was the real problem, as it exacerbated imbalances and created hierarchies by making us hopelessly dependant on them. But at that point, ALL technology does that: whether it's a power grid or a garden hoe, I as an individual can't control the person using it, nor can I convince them to give it to me outside of mental manipulation techniques (everything between a "convincing argument" to straight-up "gaslighting") or physical force... I need to make the person who refuses to relinquish their garden hoe to me do what I want them to do with it. Either way, the experience strips someone else of their autonomy and humanity as well as create an inherent hierarchy: I'm beneath the one with the garden hoe.
>yeah but ted said that some hierarchies are OK just not the ones that large-scale technological systems create
Well now we're dealing with "the paradox of the heap": when does it become "large-scale"? Did Ted give specific numbers? I mean I GUESS it could be Dunbar's number... they say it's about 150 people, but what if a few people have a Dunbar's number of only 75? Then does that mean the happy group of merely 125 people is dehumanizing those few people for making a system that may be good enough for the group but becomes too large-scale for those few? Or maybe those few people should just deal with what the majority can accept?
>yeah but ted said that some hierarchies are OK just not the ones that large-scale technological systems create
Well now we're dealing with "the paradox of the heap": when does it become "large-scale"? Did Ted give specific numbers? I mean I GUESS it could be Dunbar's number... they say it's about 150 people, but what if a few people have a Dunbar's number of only 75? Then does that mean the happy group of merely 125 people is dehumanizing those few people for making a system that may be good enough for the group but becomes too large-scale for those few? Or maybe those few people should just deal with what the majority can accept?
Call Me Tim
Dramacrat
1. You comparing AI to the program is inaccurate and disingenuous. Programs are preset with parameters due to the programing language. AI is a program designed to modify it's parameters. Plus China has AI controlled drones. You think China can't attach a small amount of explosive and rig up a remote detonator to it? It doesn't have to be elaborate or complex like US's. It can be 500 dollar consumer quality drones rigged with a grenade. Basically what you're seeing in the jew led disaster in Ukraine. Instead of the drone's controls sent to array of transponders.
Plus China already has this ability.
2. Scary you think this.
Call Me Tim
Dramacrat
Plus China already has this ability.
2. Scary you think this.
a. Who said this would be done strictly by an outside third party.
b. what if the government decided to use this as a tool to remove "problem" political opponents or opposition to their policy.
--Don't like supporting X war and vocal about it? Lots of likes? Well how's your credibility and asshole going to feel after fifteen year (just joking US pedos don't get that much time) sentence. No one would pursue your claims of innocence because no one wants to look like a pedo by proxy in defending you.
c. Actual legal defense would be almost impossible. You're in a situation like It's like DUI. You either submit to the breathalyzer or lose your license. You're guilty by NOT providing evidence for the state. The state would have to prove your guilt. They would have the false evidence. I mean it's not like any state government couldn't do it. They do it now without AI.
**You can't drive from NYC to Florida in one day now. What are you talking about.
People rejected cars because they were noisy, inefficient and smelled bad and were largely owned by the upper middle class. They just saw it for trading horse shit in the streets for foul engine exhaust.
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2. Scary you think this.
a. Who said this would be done strictly by an outside third party.
b. what if the government decided to use this as a tool to remove "problem" political opponents or opposition to their policy.
--Don't like supporting X war and vocal about it? Lots of likes? Well how's your credibility and asshole going to feel after fifteen year (just joking US pedos don't get that much time) sentence. No one would pursue your claims of innocence because no one wants to look like a pedo by proxy in defending you.
c. Actual legal defense would be almost impossible. You're in a situation like It's like DUI. You either submit to the breathalyzer or lose your license. You're guilty by NOT providing evidence for the state. The state would have to prove your guilt. They would have the false evidence. I mean it's not like any state government couldn't do it. They do it now without AI.
**You can't drive from NYC to Florida in one day now. What are you talking about.
People rejected cars because they were noisy, inefficient and smelled bad and were largely owned by the upper middle class. They just saw it for trading horse shit in the streets for foul engine exhaust.
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