Senseless consumerism as a source of joy

[Maysam]

So elected governments are willing to subject their already impoverished citizens to unprecedented levels of emotional and mental stress, at a point in history when populism in on the rise worldwide and people like your boy Trump get elected President, effectively risking insurrection that can occur as easily as sending out a single tweet, in order to make more profits for guys like Bezos who pay almost nothing in taxes.

I don't believe in the level of international collaboration needed to hoax all of this virus all over the world.

I do believe we're living in a dystopia of mega corporations wielding ridiculous amounts of power, undermining and replacing western democracy and values of the past 100 or so years.

And as your OP proves, it is going to get a lot worse since the unwashed masses are successfully conditioned to subject themselves to awful situations and degrade themselves just so they can buy product then get excited for next product.

 

[devanir]

I do believe we're living in a dystopia of mega corporations wielding ridiculous amounts of power, undermining and replacing western democracy and values of the past 100 or so years.

Yes, although the much touted values of the past are just rigid norms that more often than not made people more miserable than happy and which, like all things, are subject to change. Glorifying the beautiful past is a weak response to a harsh present reality.

 

[Maysam]

Yes, although the much touted values of the past are just rigid norms that more often than not made people more miserable than happy and which, like all things, are subject to change. Glorifying the beautiful past is a weak response to a harsh present reality.

ya lol fuck democracy and free speech lamo

 

[devanir]

ya lol fuck democracy and free speech lamo

Free speech is indeed under attack, though not so much by the obvious culprits (msm, social media platforms etc.) but rather by your average moron who has been conditioned in whatever online echo chamber he stumbled into first to parrot ridiculous theories and attack opposing viewpoints without even a semblance of an argument.

Again, I don't doubt free speech is on the chopping block. It is however included by default in the concept of democracy. If democracy is being undermined (agreed on that), then it goes without saying that free speech will not last long either.

However, a political system cannot be classified as a "value", western or otherwise. Values in a particular society are normative and pre-determined sets of ideas that control the actions of the individual to a high degree and may serve nefarious goals like keeping the population frightened or allowing the already powerful to maintain and perpetuate their chokehold on others under the guise of morality.

 

[Sadfleck]

Free speech is indeed under attack, though not so much by the obvious culprits (msm, social media platforms etc.) but rather by your average moron who has been conditioned in whatever online echo chamber he stumbled into first to parrot ridiculous theories and attack opposing viewpoints without even a semblance of an argument.

Again, I don't doubt free speech is on the chopping block. It is however included by default in the concept of democracy. If democracy is being undermined (agreed on that), then it goes without saying that free speech will not last long either.

However, a political system cannot be classified as a "value", western or otherwise. Values in a particular society are normative and pre-determined sets of ideas that control the actions of the individual to a high degree and may serve nefarious goals like keeping the population frightened or allowing the already powerful to maintain and perpetuate their chokehold on others under the guise of morality.

Good lord stay off bread tube.

 

[Likeicare]

Bayaposting

 

[chuj]

Free speech is indeed under attack, though not so much by the obvious culprits (msm, social media platforms etc.) but rather by your average moron who has been conditioned in whatever online echo chamber he stumbled into first to parrot ridiculous theories and attack opposing viewpoints without even a semblance of an argument.

Again, I don't doubt free speech is on the chopping block. It is however included by default in the concept of democracy. If democracy is being undermined (agreed on that), then it goes without saying that free speech will not last long either.

However, a political system cannot be classified as a "value", western or otherwise. Values in a particular society are normative and pre-determined sets of ideas that control the actions of the individual to a high degree and may serve nefarious goals like keeping the population frightened or allowing the already powerful to maintain and perpetuate their chokehold on others under the guise of morality.

go back to reddit

 

[FBIAgent]

I don't know how to feel about consumerism. It obviously has bad effects, but I'm not really a fan of the alternative; socialism.

 

[moogs]

Free speech is indeed under attack, though not so much by the obvious culprits (msm, social media platforms etc.) but rather by your average moron who has been conditioned in whatever online echo chamber he stumbled into first to parrot ridiculous theories and attack opposing viewpoints without even a semblance of an argument.

Again, I don't doubt free speech is on the chopping block. It is however included by default in the concept of democracy. If democracy is being undermined (agreed on that), then it goes without saying that free speech will not last long either.

What I agree with is that the freedom of speech is only at stake when the effort to control it comes from the state level. But nobody cares about the policies of a Mongolian basket weaving forum. I don't think democracy is the key element for the perfect freedom of speech.

However, a political system cannot be classified as a "value", western or otherwise. Values in a particular society are normative and pre-determined sets of ideas that control the actions of the individual to a high degree and may serve nefarious goals like keeping the population frightened or allowing the already powerful to maintain and perpetuate their chokehold on others under the guise of morality.

The real solution is to have no values at all.

 

[Likeicare]

What I agree with is that the freedom of speech is only at stake when the effort to control it comes from the state level.

Google is more powerful than most countries

 

[FBIAgent]

Google is more powerful than most countries

Can they launch a nuke?

 

[chuj]

Can they launch a nuke?

no, but they probably can disable yours

 

[Likeicare]

Can they launch a nuke?

Can most countries?

 

[Scumhook]

Can they launch a nuke?

Given that DoD outsourced a bunch of shit to AWS, yeah probably

But why would they? They can do whatever they want to without destroying their userbase.

 

[ilovejesus69]

I bought a new anime figure. It should be here soon.