Ben lost his edge once people started catching onto the fact he wasn’t a complete idiot.
College students came at him to own the religious right winger, so they were always thrown for a loop when he quoted actual evidence of fetal development.
Piers Morgan and a lot of other liberal MSM figures likewise expected some sort of Alex Jones or even just a Steven Crowder figure and were thrown for a loop when the Harvard Law grad turned out to be smart.
Once it sorta got out that Ben wasn’t a complete idiot, the college students backed off and the people interviewing him actually started trying