greenflash25
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urobuchi is a faggot and emo hack cunt.
fate zero is a edgy emo pretentious overrated dogshit.
Kiritsugu is an emo faggot.
kiritsugu a manchild with a stupid ideal and boring personality, winning his fights via asspulls and le speshul matrix abilities and muh specific ability that lets him fight against much stronger and talented opponents so edgelords can powerwank their edgy selfinsert and pretend he's a better character than he actually is
>cast is full of retards who only serve to make kerry look cooler, two women who are thirsty and absurdly devoted to kerry's dick and are perfectly fine with that for some reason, full of overused tragic tropes like muh self-loathing muh tragic past muh [insert character here] is my only reason for living and bad guys having 100% plot-armor in all circumstances and scenes but nah it's fine when the villains do it etc etc.
Killing Kayneth was pointless and needlessly edgy.
>severely crippled and humiliated, the face he makes at his wife is of a man who just wants to make it out of that mess alive no matter the cost
>Assassin and Caster are dead leaving only Gil, Saber, Jets, and Rider to contract with. Rider and Saber would never contract with him, Berserker would dissipate extremely fast after Kariya is killed, and Gil's master is the least of your worries when dealing with him.
Even in actual war, people who pull the shit Kerry did are labeled as criminals and mass murderers.
Kiritsugu faggotry that killing is bad is horseshit.
So you think all wrongs are equal? A pregnant woman killing a man in self defense, if not her own then for her baby's sake, is just as wrong as that man killing the pregnant woman for fun?
Because they are both killing, so according to your logic, they should be the same.
But that's wrong you retard.
"Murder is the unlawful killing, with malice aforethought, of another human."
Killing on the battlefield, or in a duel, is not murder. (Present laws aside.)
Having a code to follow (honor, or what have you) does, even slightly, lessen the horror of killing
I think Kiritsugu's killing of kayneth was pointless butchery.
this faggot backstory is edgy emo retarded shock value bullshit.
He has a shitty personality, and I can't feel bad for someone who deludes themselves into being a hero when he does more harm than good. Also, I hated how he cheated on Irisviel even though she stayed faithful to him all the way through, until the end. What a piece of trash.
And I would be completely okay with Kiritsugu being the way he is if it wasn't because they make up the most stupid scenes just to beg for sympathy and understanding of the audience. When he kills his father was one of the stupidest ones: a kid that barely has any understanding of the world, of the meaning of ideals and morals, cold-heartedly kill his father because some stranger he met a couple of minutes ago told him to. And it wasn't even his dad's fault, it was his retarded assistant who couldn't wait for the experiment's results. It's like everyone suddenly turns into a retard just for the sake of making the perfect circumstances to make Kerry cry and, maybe, awake some feelings in the viewer. It's just so pathetic how many of these scenes throw common sense out of the window just to show how TRAGIC and PAINFUL is Kiritsugu's life. I know Urobuchi has a boner for breaking down idealistic characters but Kiritsugu in particular was so poorly done, I couldn't take him seriously.
why his stepmother exists Because her only purpose in the story was to pile up more forced drama into Kerry's edgy past.
The whole flashback part was beyond awful, and you could see what was going to happen from a mile away. All it was was an excuse to have the MC be as edgy and soulless as he possibly could in order to make the ending more dramatic.
Kariya and Sakura's whole character is being pity bait
whole sakura/kariya subplot was tragic for the sake of tragic. fucking urobushit
kariya exist for Shock value nothing more.
Caster & his master(Gilles de Rais & Ryuunosuke): both of them don't even care about the grail, they simply spend their time killing kids and talking about how they enjoy killing kids, they're too delusional to even see the possible consequences of their actions like being the first ones killed in the grail war, which actually happens, but why are these characters in the anime anyways? oh yeah because they need SHOCKING scenes in it to attract viewers who only care about SHOCK VALUE.
lancelot, He felt bad because he let his anger over Lancelot killing his otoutos who looked up to Lancelot. He spent the rest of his life after they were killed being really fucking mad at that emo faggot who wants to be punished but doesn't let anyone punish him.
Lancelot was a literal fanfic character added later on by a French author to fuck Arthur's wife and ruin his kingdom while still somehow appearing as the noble right hand man who's secretly superior to Arthur himself. Arthurian legend is a mishmash of conflicting concepts and narratives almost as bad as the Fate series. That's why. same with fate a emo self loathing crybaby cunt.
Urobuchi is a pretentious writer. Like that scene in Fate/Zero where Rider, Archer and the Knight gather around in a circle and discuss their philosophy about the ideals of a King. That shit was so dumb.
>muh seriousness
>muh ideals
It didn't make the series good, it made it seem tryhard and pretentious.
Fate/Zero's dialogue was pretty shit.
Fate is complete shit, both Zero and SN. You have to be a complete idiot to think it's deep.
Utilitarianism and that it doesn't really work or something like that.
You can't change the world, if you have no concept of how. Kerry's world view was complete shit and in the end the show told him it was shit. Oh and also it contains a lot of suffering.
Like every Type moon work, both are full of one-dinensional plot device characters, forced plots and pretentious attempts at philosophy and internal conflict in characters trying too hard to be deep
speaking of 2deep4u faggotry.
kirei.
Kotomine's concept was interesting. Too bad they ruined him by having him spew 2deep4u philosophical diarrhea everywhere.
Kotomine feels guilty for being born evil? Huh? Doesn't that mean he's good?
This shit is retarded
I couldn't really feel sympathy for kotomine because:
>being born evil
This is impossible. People aren't born evil. Kotomine had to make that choice at some point, he has to take responsibility for his actions. Trying to pull that card is bad writing.
Kotomine wanted to be evil, but ended up just coming off as a huge pretentious manchild with murderous tendencies
Boo hoo my wife is dead AND I WANTED TO KILL HER
>FEEL SO EMPTY GOOD DOESN'T FEEL GOOD MAYBE I'LL BE EVIL
This. Sympathetic, well-intentioned extremist villains can work,
but the last decade has seen a fucking annoying trend of equating charisma with sympathy and thus produced a truckload of whinny "product-of-society" sobstory fuckwads.
Screw that. To me, the best villains are the ones that I love seeing on screen because they are fun to watch, but that I will cheer greatly when they get their faces smashed into a pulp by the hero. Don't show me a guy commiting genocide and then try to sell me some bullshit justification about their mommy not hugging them enough. If you are an asshole, take pride in it and play your part.
Kotomine's backstory was terrible (hurr i was sad because I wanted to kill muh wife instead so evil
the "Evil because good doesn't feel good" is as shallow as a wading pool.
Problem is neither Shirou nor Kirei is written as realistic mentally broken character, they are written as a convenient plot devices representing "mentally broken people" in totally unrealistic way.
gilgamesh is a good person.
Just because Nasu and urofaggot says it doesn't mean it's right, especially when it's something outside of his system. If I made a character who worked at a soup kitchen all of his life, obeyed the law to the letter, and gave away all of his money to charity and then called him Chaotic Evil, would that make me right? Hell no.
but gilgamesh is from babylon mythlogy you can`t judge him by modren standards.
Yes you can, that's what morality is you idiot.
Hitler, in his view, was making the world a better place.
I'm sure Gilgamesh considers himself good and virtuous, but what's important is how others perceive him. And anyone who isn't an edgy teenager, and more importantly the AD&D alignment system, would not classify him as good.
before you muh Babylonian was a hero.
in Ancient myths like the Egyptian norse and greek still morals if you a scumbag or not.
Egyptian theology, the afterlife was entirely dependent on moral purity. When a soul was judged in the Hall of Ma'at, their heart was weighed against a feather representing truth and justice.
in the old testament is it says thou shalt not murder if you murder a innocent not a judgement or to protect in self defense you were a shitbag and was going to hell.
in greek mythology the furies exist.
the furies judge people for thier crimes even murder of innocents.
and those faggots nasu and urobuchi insults actual good people in our world by writing parodies such as Kerry or Shirou and shitting on them.
they are ungrateful to all the doctors, missionaries, firefighters and charity workers who worked and suffered, and for what? So that the next generations can label them as incomplete maniacs?.
but that selfish and stupid And in the process of defending their people, they know they have a tremendous risk TO DIE. But they do it ANYWAY. And there have been plenty of people who have signed up for suicide missions, knowing they would die, and guess what, they were not childish or stupid either.
Your posts are worthless, you just spew "you're a teenager!!!" over and over and never confront the argument. You sound like some tard out of a fateshit thread arguing about "muh seigi no mikata",
Literally all of fate is bad, and the sooner humanity can forget it, the better.
so fuck Fate is retarded and it's fans are retarded. and fuck the retarded 2deep4u overthikers cunt fans.
fate zero is a edgy emo pretentious overrated dogshit.
Kiritsugu is an emo faggot.
kiritsugu a manchild with a stupid ideal and boring personality, winning his fights via asspulls and le speshul matrix abilities and muh specific ability that lets him fight against much stronger and talented opponents so edgelords can powerwank their edgy selfinsert and pretend he's a better character than he actually is
>cast is full of retards who only serve to make kerry look cooler, two women who are thirsty and absurdly devoted to kerry's dick and are perfectly fine with that for some reason, full of overused tragic tropes like muh self-loathing muh tragic past muh [insert character here] is my only reason for living and bad guys having 100% plot-armor in all circumstances and scenes but nah it's fine when the villains do it etc etc.
Killing Kayneth was pointless and needlessly edgy.
>severely crippled and humiliated, the face he makes at his wife is of a man who just wants to make it out of that mess alive no matter the cost
>Assassin and Caster are dead leaving only Gil, Saber, Jets, and Rider to contract with. Rider and Saber would never contract with him, Berserker would dissipate extremely fast after Kariya is killed, and Gil's master is the least of your worries when dealing with him.
Even in actual war, people who pull the shit Kerry did are labeled as criminals and mass murderers.
Kiritsugu faggotry that killing is bad is horseshit.
So you think all wrongs are equal? A pregnant woman killing a man in self defense, if not her own then for her baby's sake, is just as wrong as that man killing the pregnant woman for fun?
Because they are both killing, so according to your logic, they should be the same.
But that's wrong you retard.
"Murder is the unlawful killing, with malice aforethought, of another human."
Killing on the battlefield, or in a duel, is not murder. (Present laws aside.)
Having a code to follow (honor, or what have you) does, even slightly, lessen the horror of killing
I think Kiritsugu's killing of kayneth was pointless butchery.
this faggot backstory is edgy emo retarded shock value bullshit.
He has a shitty personality, and I can't feel bad for someone who deludes themselves into being a hero when he does more harm than good. Also, I hated how he cheated on Irisviel even though she stayed faithful to him all the way through, until the end. What a piece of trash.
And I would be completely okay with Kiritsugu being the way he is if it wasn't because they make up the most stupid scenes just to beg for sympathy and understanding of the audience. When he kills his father was one of the stupidest ones: a kid that barely has any understanding of the world, of the meaning of ideals and morals, cold-heartedly kill his father because some stranger he met a couple of minutes ago told him to. And it wasn't even his dad's fault, it was his retarded assistant who couldn't wait for the experiment's results. It's like everyone suddenly turns into a retard just for the sake of making the perfect circumstances to make Kerry cry and, maybe, awake some feelings in the viewer. It's just so pathetic how many of these scenes throw common sense out of the window just to show how TRAGIC and PAINFUL is Kiritsugu's life. I know Urobuchi has a boner for breaking down idealistic characters but Kiritsugu in particular was so poorly done, I couldn't take him seriously.
why his stepmother exists Because her only purpose in the story was to pile up more forced drama into Kerry's edgy past.
The whole flashback part was beyond awful, and you could see what was going to happen from a mile away. All it was was an excuse to have the MC be as edgy and soulless as he possibly could in order to make the ending more dramatic.
Kariya and Sakura's whole character is being pity bait
whole sakura/kariya subplot was tragic for the sake of tragic. fucking urobushit
kariya exist for Shock value nothing more.
Caster & his master(Gilles de Rais & Ryuunosuke): both of them don't even care about the grail, they simply spend their time killing kids and talking about how they enjoy killing kids, they're too delusional to even see the possible consequences of their actions like being the first ones killed in the grail war, which actually happens, but why are these characters in the anime anyways? oh yeah because they need SHOCKING scenes in it to attract viewers who only care about SHOCK VALUE.
lancelot, He felt bad because he let his anger over Lancelot killing his otoutos who looked up to Lancelot. He spent the rest of his life after they were killed being really fucking mad at that emo faggot who wants to be punished but doesn't let anyone punish him.
Lancelot was a literal fanfic character added later on by a French author to fuck Arthur's wife and ruin his kingdom while still somehow appearing as the noble right hand man who's secretly superior to Arthur himself. Arthurian legend is a mishmash of conflicting concepts and narratives almost as bad as the Fate series. That's why. same with fate a emo self loathing crybaby cunt.
Urobuchi is a pretentious writer. Like that scene in Fate/Zero where Rider, Archer and the Knight gather around in a circle and discuss their philosophy about the ideals of a King. That shit was so dumb.
>muh seriousness
>muh ideals
It didn't make the series good, it made it seem tryhard and pretentious.
Fate/Zero's dialogue was pretty shit.
Fate is complete shit, both Zero and SN. You have to be a complete idiot to think it's deep.
Utilitarianism and that it doesn't really work or something like that.
You can't change the world, if you have no concept of how. Kerry's world view was complete shit and in the end the show told him it was shit. Oh and also it contains a lot of suffering.
Like every Type moon work, both are full of one-dinensional plot device characters, forced plots and pretentious attempts at philosophy and internal conflict in characters trying too hard to be deep
speaking of 2deep4u faggotry.
kirei.
Kotomine's concept was interesting. Too bad they ruined him by having him spew 2deep4u philosophical diarrhea everywhere.
Kotomine feels guilty for being born evil? Huh? Doesn't that mean he's good?
This shit is retarded
I couldn't really feel sympathy for kotomine because:
>being born evil
This is impossible. People aren't born evil. Kotomine had to make that choice at some point, he has to take responsibility for his actions. Trying to pull that card is bad writing.
Kotomine wanted to be evil, but ended up just coming off as a huge pretentious manchild with murderous tendencies
Boo hoo my wife is dead AND I WANTED TO KILL HER
>FEEL SO EMPTY GOOD DOESN'T FEEL GOOD MAYBE I'LL BE EVIL
This. Sympathetic, well-intentioned extremist villains can work,
but the last decade has seen a fucking annoying trend of equating charisma with sympathy and thus produced a truckload of whinny "product-of-society" sobstory fuckwads.
Screw that. To me, the best villains are the ones that I love seeing on screen because they are fun to watch, but that I will cheer greatly when they get their faces smashed into a pulp by the hero. Don't show me a guy commiting genocide and then try to sell me some bullshit justification about their mommy not hugging them enough. If you are an asshole, take pride in it and play your part.
Kotomine's backstory was terrible (hurr i was sad because I wanted to kill muh wife instead so evil
the "Evil because good doesn't feel good" is as shallow as a wading pool.
Problem is neither Shirou nor Kirei is written as realistic mentally broken character, they are written as a convenient plot devices representing "mentally broken people" in totally unrealistic way.
gilgamesh is a good person.
Just because Nasu and urofaggot says it doesn't mean it's right, especially when it's something outside of his system. If I made a character who worked at a soup kitchen all of his life, obeyed the law to the letter, and gave away all of his money to charity and then called him Chaotic Evil, would that make me right? Hell no.
but gilgamesh is from babylon mythlogy you can`t judge him by modren standards.
Yes you can, that's what morality is you idiot.
Hitler, in his view, was making the world a better place.
I'm sure Gilgamesh considers himself good and virtuous, but what's important is how others perceive him. And anyone who isn't an edgy teenager, and more importantly the AD&D alignment system, would not classify him as good.
before you muh Babylonian was a hero.
in Ancient myths like the Egyptian norse and greek still morals if you a scumbag or not.
Egyptian theology, the afterlife was entirely dependent on moral purity. When a soul was judged in the Hall of Ma'at, their heart was weighed against a feather representing truth and justice.
in the old testament is it says thou shalt not murder if you murder a innocent not a judgement or to protect in self defense you were a shitbag and was going to hell.
in greek mythology the furies exist.
the furies judge people for thier crimes even murder of innocents.
and those faggots nasu and urobuchi insults actual good people in our world by writing parodies such as Kerry or Shirou and shitting on them.
they are ungrateful to all the doctors, missionaries, firefighters and charity workers who worked and suffered, and for what? So that the next generations can label them as incomplete maniacs?.
but that selfish and stupid And in the process of defending their people, they know they have a tremendous risk TO DIE. But they do it ANYWAY. And there have been plenty of people who have signed up for suicide missions, knowing they would die, and guess what, they were not childish or stupid either.
Your posts are worthless, you just spew "you're a teenager!!!" over and over and never confront the argument. You sound like some tard out of a fateshit thread arguing about "muh seigi no mikata",
Literally all of fate is bad, and the sooner humanity can forget it, the better.
so fuck Fate is retarded and it's fans are retarded. and fuck the retarded 2deep4u overthikers cunt fans.
