It was a demonstration of force. It was purely symbolic. It was based on the foolish notion that they could influence the actions of an entire US state by using the Governor as leverage. Generally, once it reaches that level, the US Gov. doesn't negotiate with terrorists. They'll try to stall them out. Kidnapping a woman is always bad optics.
Plus, they didn't have the means to hold out in the event of a siege, which is what the FBI would have done. They would have let time do their job. If they killed the Governor, there would have been less of an incentive to capture them. These type of people never really think things through.

Despite the high profile nature of the case, D’Antuono’s agents couldn’t describe any detailed plan for the kidnapping the men were supposedly plotting. How did they expect to capture the governor? How did they expect to get her all the way to Wisconsin, or to the middle of Lake Michigan on a boat, as they supposedly planned to do? The FBI has so far failed to provide answers to these questions.
fbi totally not being opportunistic and lazy. dont know if those guys were really planning it or not, but it seems questionable that the fbi wouldnt be able to answer certain specific questions regarding the "kidnapping plot".
 
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What exactly do you know about how the agencies data mine? Any info you could share with us in small points? I know canadian police train with US and ADL regularly so they are applying the same tactics to us up here.

Something which you may want to consider and I forgot to mention. You have to go beyond what the story is telling you. I understand that Canada has hate speech laws, and people are being prosecuted for those infractions. The state has to store that evidence somewhere for trial, and I'm sure it's not on a floppy disk. It may be in the beginning stages now, of where they "collect" the 'evidence' of the "heinous crime of 'hate speech,'" and only assign personnel on a basis of need. It's not to far fetched to say eventually, it will become a full fledged department, which means they would need to be funded and a special agency would need to be created to deal with that issue. I work backwards from what they tell me. I have to be careful because it's purely speculative. So I look for things which are necessary to make that part of the necessary legal process available. (For example, look for sudden increases in police budgets, or an announcement of a new police unit to deal with a specific issue. If the government has to make a new agency, then it's something they want to concentrate on (it may be a real issue like gang violence or something purely political like 'hate speech'). And with all things government, once it's funded, it lives forever and then you have to watch how it fights for budgeting -- how it stays alive and relevant. I mean the US still has the Bureau of Indian Affairs and the US Government hasn't been in a war with the Indians in well over 100 years and look how it "evolved" to stay "alive.")

I'm not at all saying this is how it's done in Canada. I have no idea. I am only using my collected observations on how America creates agencies to deal with an issue. It may be incorrect in parts. Canada has different rules etc. And sadly Canada is not as seemingly free as they like to tout. I watch the Rebel News to try to understand how you folks, agreed it's very limited in scope, however, Canada doesn't have the Bill of Rights to limit the government and the Canadian government is overly vague even when forced to disclose information.

However, it does seem to be a growing trend among western governments, which they want to control the populace more, which should be disturbing to anyone. Plus, no one really asks the question of "why." Why does the populace need to be more controlled? What is the purpose of more control? What is the overall goal of controlling the population more. On that point, it seems that the governments are conditioning the people to accept more control of the government. "Easing them into the idea."

Which is why I think there is such a push back on masks in the US. When you look at the fatality rates, and the conditions of that patient's death: elderly, preexisting conditions, being locked in a nursing home, etc., Covid seems to be really overhyped. I mean don't be stupid, and start licking toilet seats, but to scream at people, assault or even murder people because they are not wearing a homemade or commercially made non N95 mask (which is proven to be useless), or a bandana or baclava, (which is also useless), face shield or pet cone (lol wut? an airborne virus is suddenly stopped by essentially a little wall) M95 with a breathing port (defeats the purpose of spreading). It's just fucking retarded. And restaurants now are demanding you wear a mask once you enter an establishment. However, you have to take off the mask to eat and drink so Covid takes a break when you do so? So it seems more about control of the people, rather than control of an infection.

Anyhoo. this is getting too long and this post is starting to morph into another related subject.
 

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the fbi wouldnt be able to answer certain specific questions regarding the "kidnapping plot".
Generally, the FBI doesn't announce such information before the trial unless they have a slam dunk. I don't think this is the case. I think they have evidence which is damning but, they don't want to go through the press circus and explain how they found this information or how they obtained it.

Contrast this with what they had on Osama bin Fartin. They dumped a trove of information on why this guy was responsible. Albeit they minimized some key aspects of the situation due to the "sensitivity" to a certain country. Not going to mention any names but rhymes with Blaudia Flaravia.
 
Something which you may want to consider and I forgot to mention. You have to go beyond what the story is telling you. I understand that Canada has hate speech laws, and people are being prosecuted for those infractions. The state has to store that evidence somewhere for trial, and I'm sure it's not on a floppy disk. It may be in the beginning stages now, of where they "collect" the 'evidence' of the "heinous crime of 'hate speech,'" and only assign personnel on a basis of need. It's not to far fetched to say eventually, it will become a full fledged department, which means they would need to be funded and a special agency would need to be created to deal with that issue. I work backwards from what they tell me. I have to be careful because it's purely speculative. So I look for things which are necessary to make that part of the necessary legal process available. (For example, look for sudden increases in police budgets, or an announcement of a new police unit to deal with a specific issue. If the government has to make a new agency, then it's something they want to concentrate on (it may be a real issue like gang violence or something purely political like 'hate speech'). And with all things government, once it's funded, it lives forever and then you have to watch how it fights for budgeting -- how it stays alive and relevant. I mean the US still has the Bureau of Indian Affairs and the US Government hasn't been in a war with the Indians in well over 100 years and look how it "evolved" to stay "alive.")

I'm not at all saying this is how it's done in Canada. I have no idea. I am only using my collected observations on how America creates agencies to deal with an issue. It may be incorrect in parts. Canada has different rules etc. And sadly Canada is not as seemingly free as they like to tout. I watch the Rebel News to try to understand how you folks, agreed it's very limited in scope, however, Canada doesn't have the Bill of Rights to limit the government and the Canadian government is overly vague even when forced to disclose information.

However, it does seem to be a growing trend among western governments, which they want to control the populace more, which should be disturbing to anyone. Plus, no one really asks the question of "why." Why does the populace need to be more controlled? What is the purpose of more control? What is the overall goal of controlling the population more. On that point, it seems that the governments are conditioning the people to accept more control of the government. "Easing them into the idea."

Which is why I think there is such a push back on masks in the US. When you look at the fatality rates, and the conditions of that patient's death: elderly, preexisting conditions, being locked in a nursing home, etc., Covid seems to be really overhyped. I mean don't be stupid, and start licking toilet seats, but to scream at people, assault or even murder people because they are not wearing a homemade or commercially made non N95 mask (which is proven to be useless), or a bandana or baclava, (which is also useless), face shield or pet cone (lol wut? an airborne virus is suddenly stopped by essentially a little wall) M95 with a breathing port (defeats the purpose of spreading). It's just fucking retarded. And restaurants now are demanding you wear a mask once you enter an establishment. However, you have to take off the mask to eat and drink so Covid takes a break when you do so? So it seems more about control of the people, rather than control of an infection.

Anyhoo. this is getting too long and this post is starting to morph into another related subject.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/your-ward-news-james-sears-sentenced-1.5256452

This is an archive of their stuff I think https://issuu.com/yourwardnews

All western governments except the countries of the Visegard groups(poland, czech) and America under trump seek to control their people more. These two articles I linked are white/native men who were sentenced to jail time and had their lives ruined for printing an edgy newspaper that attacked liberal(our ruling party) education.
Im going to be looking into how Canada collects Data on their citizens, I know their Covid alert app harvests most of the stuff on your phone. We are not free at all our democracy is terribly unfree , our defamation laws date from the 19th century, our police are corrupt, the education system is in the hands of leftists.

I dont want to seem that im whining becaue their is good news. Canadians are one of the most active groups on 4chan /pol/ for better or worse. People are getting pissed off with all this political correctness and white guilt bullshit. But things wont change until we break the backs of the teachers unions and change our higher education system. We might very well be an experiment into how far you can push this multi culturalism and endless brown people immigration bullshit, because we are experiencing an even more rapid pace of demographic change then a place like sweden. But again people are waking up, for example in Red Deer Alberta Anti-fa and BLM went there to "talk about racism" and got pushed back by the local population . Of course CBC only gave coverage to the BLM leader.

Peace dude, I worked all week and I am going to have a good weekend, white genocide or not.
 
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/your-ward-news-james-sears-sentenced-1.5256452

This is an archive of their stuff I think https://issuu.com/yourwardnews

All western governments except the countries of the Visegard groups(poland, czech) and America under Drumpf seek to control their people more. These two articles I linked are white/native men who were sentenced to jail time and had their lives ruined for printing an edgy newspaper that attacked liberal(our ruling party) education.
Im going to be looking into how Canada collects Data on their citizens, I know their Covid alert app harvests most of the stuff on your phone. We are not free at all our democracy is terribly unfree , our defamation laws date from the 19th century, our police are corrupt, the education system is in the hands of leftists.

I dont want to seem that im whining becaue their is good news. Canadians are one of the most active groups on 4chan /pol/ for better or worse. People are getting pissed off with all this political correctness and white guilt bullshit. But things wont change until we break the backs of the teachers unions and change our higher education system. We might very well be an experiment into how far you can push this multi culturalism and endless brown people immigration bullshit, because we are experiencing an even more rapid pace of demographic change then a place like sweden. But again people are waking up, for example in Red Deer Alberta Anti-fa and BLM went there to "talk about racism" and got pushed back by the local population . Of course CBC only gave coverage to the BLM leader.

Peace dude, I worked all week and I am going to have a good weekend, white genocide or not.
For western nations, immigration is THE KEY issue. Currently, both Canada and the US are committing demographic suicide. It is appalling.
 
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