Call Me Tim

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things have changed so much the last 10 years i don't know anymore. all i know is i am sick of the cult mentality on the left. they demand you agree with them on everything. there really isn't any diversity of thought. the party left me.
I think you're trying to find your own though your communist beginnings has left an indelible mark upon you.

Ironically, the one that was in the WH that was closest to a conservative was Kennedy.
 
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Look at this USA Today article, "Billie Eilish condemns 'pathetic' Elon Musk for hoarding wealth as trillionaire." This talks only about Elon Musk while turning a blind eye towards Billie Eilish who is worth $50 million. That $50 million could by used to build affordable housing, feed the homeless, etc etc. She's donated $11 million but honestly she won't even feel it. And I guarantee she won't lose any sleep if she becomes a billionaire like hypocrite Taylor Swift.

The uniparty serves the rich. USA Today is tricking people into thinking it stands against rich people like Elon Musk while in the same article glorifying rich people like Billie Eilish and ignoring her blatant hypocrisies. And instead of holding itself accountable, instead our media cries about misinformation, disinformation and now malinformation. IT ISN'T US, IT IS EVERYONE ELSE! This is propaganda written for woke NIMBY Karens.

Because we need the illusion of choice, the uniparty has it set up so 'people of congress' continue to rake in the cash even after they lose elections. From what I understand, former Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema is still using money for her 'campaign.' This is why they allow insider trading etc etc. So even when a puppet of the uniparty is out of office, they are okay with it because they got a golden parachute.

This is why I especially dislike fake socialist/communist NIMBY Democrats. They are lying when they say they stand against the rich. But the uniparty knows people will believe their lies. And the uniparty knows these lies make it so people like myself who actually stand against the rich aren't heard or believed.

In the end, Democrat or Republican, the uniparty stays in control by giving people the illusion of choice.

 
DOGE gave Republicans the illusion of change so more money could get funneled to the military. For example, the golden dome is just another waste of money that benefits that doesn't benefit the average American. If you look at the war between Ukraine and Russia, it is painfully obvious tech we spent billions on is rapidly becoming irrelevant. So we spend billions on this golden dome just to have it worthless in a decade. This is also is true for hardware we're putting into AI data centers. But the rich got richer so they don't care.

This is why Elon Musk walked it back with DOGE, it jeopardized his status in the uniparty and his dreams of becoming a trillionaire. You can't be a trillionaire if the uniparty isn't giving tax breaks, government subsidies and lucrative contracts. Tesla is smoke and mirrors.
 

Call Me Tim

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that i believe. I think it was Nixon who founded the EPA.
Yeah. This should have never happened, though I don't mind the FBI looking into violations of permits, chemical waste dumps etc., because those are legit crimes. The US didn't need another agency. And now after being under Pete Bootieplug, they don't even investigate obvious crimes. What good are they.

Plus, people get legislative boners over non-violation violations. Like a wastewater plant violating permit when it's underwater from a hurricane. People are that fucking stupid.
A rich person is butthurt over a wealthy person not doing what he/she wants.
She makes a really strong case for women not having the right to vote or have any position of influence or authority.
Elon is a trillionaire.
Elon is a rich kid playing with rockets.
 
And now after being under Pete Bootieplug, they don't even investigate obvious crimes. What good are they.



Construction companies are as color blind as you can get. There are exceptions but that can go both ways. Skin color doesn't matter, show up to work on time, do your job and collect your paycheck. White people are already underrepresented in construction. But people like Pete Buttigieg see skin color, not humans.

He is whining about white construction workers working in non-white neighborhoods. But is he complaining about an over representation of Asians in certain industries? No.

What Pete Buttigieg really wants is to replace people who are more likely to demand good wages with people who culturally are used to being treated like shit. Construction companies would love to shove more cash into their pockets by hiring brown illegal slaves. That would be a good way to bring wages down for Americans.
 
She makes a really strong case for women not having the right to vote or have any position of influence or authority.

Obviously, I disagree. Women in the USSR, as far as I am aware, weren't insufferable. The USSR was still male dominated but at least they tried for equality. And I mean real equality, not the modern-day feminist definition of equality where men are feminized and assigned a NIMBY feminist backseat driver.
 

Call Me Tim

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That would be a good way to bring wages down for Americans.
Right and that's been the real reason why open borders is such a talking point for the left and why they want it.
The biggest hypocrite on this subject is Nancy Pelosi. California is a strong union state. She runs a several hundred winery and employs non-union labor.

It's why you're seeing less and less white people in construction jobs because the illegals keep undercuting them. Since the illegals have no overhead like taxes it's all takehome pay. So that 12 bucks an hour is more like 18-19 bucks an hour for a citizen. Plus, illegals really do shit work.
Obviously, I disagree.
Cannot speak to the USSR. I can only comment on the west and Merica. In the west, and especially in America, women vote on one topic. It has no importance pertaining to geopolitics, the military or it's world standing, the economy, crime, and or social issues. Abortion.

The very distinct second is education. In every single candidate the more radical abortion candidate is also the radical education candidate. So the progressives always lock down the single female vote, and that usually carries on into marriage. If the woman wants abortion, she votes for the abortion candidate, but if she doesn't want abortion she wants education so she votes for the abortion candidate. The progressives are really good in mixing in campaign stances where the voter still votes for them even when they are diametrically opposed to a key campaign focus. Single issue voters.
 

Call Me Tim

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The real problem with these agencies is that they are all little fiefdoms. And the Agency head is the absolute ruler, a king within their own agency. They really don't answer to anyone, yeah they might get dragged in front of some committee, but nothing ever happens, even when they are found in contempt of Congress, which used to be a pretty serious thing.

They make up their own rules which carry the weight of Federal law.

I break an ATF rule, I'm going to federal prison for 10 years minimum and facing a 250K fine.
I break an EPA rule at work, I could go to federal prison for5-20 years and face 250K fine depending on the violation.
OSHA? Same.
IRS? They will freeze you out of your accounts.
Don't pay property taxes? The government takes your property. There was one story where a woman was like 12 dollars behind on a tax bill due to an error, and the government repossessed her house even though she had paid it off a decade earlier. Sold her house for not even market value and pocketed the overage.
And the list goes on.
I think at last count there were over 100 different federal agencies which make their own rules which carry the weight of federal law. No one voted for them, and they are so terribly written, you don't know where you stand according to the law. A lot depends on who you know and who is your attorney and how he is respected by that agency. If he or she doesn't have any gravitas, you're cooked no matter how much evidence you have in support for you.

I got audited by the IRS about a decade ago and didn't list a collections resolution as income. Really through me for a loop, took eight months to clear up, I was lucky and the IRS officer knew this was an unintentional mistake, I ended up paying as much in fines and penalties as the amount. It was a three month back and forth to get them to freeze the penalties.
 
There was one story where a woman was like 12 dollars behind on a tax bill due to an error, and the government repossessed her house even though she had paid it off a decade earlier. Sold her house for not even market value and pocketed the overage.
Yeah, I've heard about incidents like this. Democrats claim to say they care about the worker while turning a blind eye towards this kind of corruption. And by lying, they do more harm.

I've heard of mayors who own companies that benefit from this bs. Personally I know of a blue city major who's real estate company benefits from gentrification. This is why I say there are no legitimate socialists in the US. Democrats just fake it.

You also have cities harassing poor home owners by writing bs citations to force them to sell their homes.

Civil asset forfeiture, while can have its place, it needs to be outlawed. There is too much abuse and victims often can't afford to defend themselves. Imminent domain often benefits politicians and their rich donors.

I can't remember the details but Chicago was trying to bulldoze a poor neighborhood to replace it will upper-class housing. And that is what they are doing in Las Angeles. I cannot say this enough, Democrats do NOT give a fuck about the working class.
 

Call Me Tim

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I think the progressives, and the government as a whole is rather socialist. They just seem to be concentrating on consolidating power at the present. If that's your main goal and once you achieve it you can continue to ignore the populace, because what are the little people going to do, and everyone will be equally poor more or less, and then be absolutely dependent on the government.

Neo-feudalism.
 
I think the progressives, and the government as a whole is rather socialist. They just seem to be concentrating on consolidating power at the present. If that's your main goal and once you achieve it you can continue to ignore the populace, because what are the little people going to do, and everyone will be equally poor more or less, and then be absolutely dependent on the government.

Neo-feudalism.

needing an ID to vote is racist. but needing an ID/background check to buy a gun isn't racist. nor is it racist to need an ID to buy cigarettes/weed/alcohol. it isn't racist to need an ID to withdraw money from your bank account. or to board a plane etc etc. i've had lefties tell me, "id to vote and id to buy a gun aren't the same thing." It defies common sense.

with mail-in ballots, what i say to right-wingers is, you know Democrats are cheating and so should you.

This is how I think about government handouts. We're giving illegals free meals/housing/healthcare etc. Even if you don't need foodstamps, apply! The money is going to illegals anyways. I've gotten a couple Republicans to change their mind. Blacks should also do the same to blue cities that shut down their schools, saying there isn't enough money. But when illegals show up, they get everything while others are working multiple jobs and living paycheck to paycheck.

Chicago increased property taxes to pay for overpaid union teachers and the illegals. This disproportionately affects the marginalized. What I can say to them is screw your city over any way that you can. Get your money back.

 

Call Me Tim

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needing an ID to vote is racist. but needing an ID/background check to buy a gun isn't racist. nor is it racist to need an ID to buy cigarettes/weed/alcohol. it isn't racist to need an ID to withdraw money from your bank account. or to board a plane etc etc. i've had lefties tell me, "id to vote and id to buy a gun aren't the same thing." It defies common sense.

with mail-in ballots, what i say to right-wingers is, you know Democrats are cheating and so should you.

This is how I think about government handouts. We're giving illegals free meals/housing/healthcare etc. Even if you don't need foodstamps, apply! The money is going to illegals anyways. I've gotten a couple Republicans to change their mind. Blacks should also do the same to blue cities that shut down their schools, saying there isn't enough money. But when illegals show up, they get everything while others are working multiple jobs and living paycheck to paycheck.

Chicago increased property taxes to pay for overpaid union teachers and the illegals. This disproportionately affects the marginalized. What I can say to them is screw your city over any way that you can. Get your money back.

But you don't get you money "back." You put a further drain on the system. The illegals and the scammers still get their money, and now with your application you increased the need for resources. Then they have to raise taxes. And of course there will be the press release bragging: We are helping X number of people a X% increase over last year, while simultaneously bitching: Americans shouldn't be starving or need EBT and we need to do something about it, (which means raise more taxes).

Solutions to social problems are not actual working solutions. They are a way to extrapolate more money from the people and hand it to a government that will increase the size of bureaucracy because there is a greater demand for services. The age old joke, "The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy," is horrifyingly accurate. Plus, most of the agency heads are making very good money, have no real metric to measure success or failure, and have no timeline. Even if he/she could, why solve the problem. There goes your cushy job, pension, title, job amenities, car, travel, dining expense, etc.

That's why I don't want anymore of these programs. It's not that I'm heartless, which honestly, I am, but it's just a money game. They play this game, and take our money, and nothing gets done asides of more promises being made that they never intend to keep.
 
But you don't get you money "back." You put a further drain on the system. The illegals and the scammers still get their money, and now with your application you increased the need for resources. Then they have to raise taxes. And of course there will be the press release bragging: We are helping X number of people a X% increase over last year, while simultaneously bitching: Americans shouldn't be starving or need EBT and we need to do something about it, (which means raise more taxes).

Solutions to social problems are not actual working solutions. They are a way to extrapolate more money from the people and hand it to a government that will increase the size of bureaucracy because there is a greater demand for services. The age old joke, "The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy," is horrifyingly accurate. Plus, most of the agency heads are making very good money, have no real metric to measure success or failure, and have no timeline. Even if he/she could, why solve the problem. There goes your cushy job, pension, title, job amenities, car, travel, dining expense, etc.

That's why I don't want anymore of these programs. It's not that I'm heartless, which honestly, I am, but it's just a money game. They play this game, and take our money, and nothing gets done asides of more promises being made that they never intend to keep.

If we lived in a sane country I would agree with you. 1.) But the rich aren't paying their fair share (we will not agree on this so we don't need to debate it.) 2.) The next Democrat president will open the borders and flood this country with millions more illegals. We both know this. There is a reasonable chance they will get rid of the filibuster and give them citizenship. We both know the majority of these people don't respect this country. Just like the they don't respect the UK and instead exploit it for everything they can. The more we drain the government, the less is available for the illegals. And maybe collectively as a country we will decide this needs to change. But I don't see the government stopping the handouts for illegals anytime soon. And the government will continue to encourage them to cross the border and be a drain on the system.
 

Call Me Tim

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If we lived in a sane country I would agree with you. 1.) But the rich aren't paying their fair share (we will not agree on this so we don't need to debate it.)
Exactly what would be a "fair amount" Seriously.
2.) The next Democrat president will open the borders and flood this country with millions more illegals. We both know this. There is a reasonable chance they will get rid of the filibuster and give them citizenship. We both know the majority of these people don't respect this country. Just like the they don't respect the UK and instead exploit it for everything they can.
K and?
The more we drain the government, the less is available for the illegals.
This is the Cloward–Piven strategy to destroy western governments.
The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. The strategy aims to utilize "militant anti poverty groups" to facilitate a "political crisis" by overloading the welfare system via an increase in welfare claims, forcing the creation of a system of guaranteed minimum income and "redistributing income through the federal government".
And that would be a disaster. It's essentially a "bloodless revolution," or an attempt at one, however, all revolutions are bloody.

And absolutely wrong. The governments have proven they will deficit spend.
And maybe collectively as a country we will decide this needs to change. But I don't see the government stopping the handouts for illegals anytime soon. And the government will continue to encourage them to cross the border and be a drain on the system.
The handouts stop, when we kick them out. It's literally that simple.
 
Exactly what would be a "fair amount" Seriously.

We need to increase taxes on the rich while decreasing government spending. Do I have a magic number? No. And I don't see this happening anytime soon in this country.

And absolutely wrong. The governments have proven they will deficit spend.

I agree. Inflation will run rampant. But we're entering a uni-polar era and that might motivate the world to have less faith in our currency.

Look, when a worker isn't working, ideally they get fired. But sometimes crap co-workers aren't fired and instead the good workers quit. If the company fails to address it, the company goes out of business. At least smaller companies.

The same logic applies here. Our government is favoring people who aren't pulling their weight. Eventually those who aren't a drain on the system need to just say fuck it.

The handouts stop, when we kick them out. It's literally that simple.

I agree 100%. But we got too many decadent college educated NIMBY's who don't have a fucking clue. And they are destroying everything.
 

Call Me Tim

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We need to increase taxes on the rich while decreasing government spending. Do I have a magic number? No. And I don't see this happening anytime soon in this country.
That's a cop out.


2022, the top 5% of earners — people with incomes $261,591 and above — collectively paid over $1.3 trillion in income taxes, or about 61%
top 10% — everyone who made at least $178,611 — that figure rises to $1.5 trillion, or 72%
The top 50% of earners contributed 97% ($80,000+) of federal income tax revenue.
I agree. Inflation will run rampant. But we're entering a uni-polar era and that might motivate the world to have less faith in our currency.
BRICS was created in response to the weakening Global Reserve currency and Obunghole devaluing the debt when China bought a trillion of US debt.
Inflation already is. They are stopping the minting of the penny. The inflation is permanent and will increase in scale rapidly. In stead of a 2-4% yearly, it will be 4-6% in my estimation. American cannot turn the corner. America is deficit spending about 1 Trillion dollars every three months. The same logic applies here. Our government is favoring people who aren't pulling their weight.
Our government is favoring people who aren't pulling their weight.
Right because they are buying votes.
I agree 100%. But we got too many decadent college educated NIMBY's who don't have a fucking clue. And they are destroying everything.
Not In My BackYard, what do they have to do with this. I'm confused by your reference to this term. What do you mean by it.
 
That's a cop out.

On this question I see us more likely having an argument rather than a consensus. I am not getting too far deep into it. But I also brought it up to be objective and not pretend it is just one side of the debate.

Not In My BackYard, what do they have to do with this. I'm confused by your reference to this term. What do you mean by it.

They are fakes. They virtue signal, pretending to care about issues, but the moment the solution impacts them, suddenly they don't like it. NIMBY's demand open borders but if you try to build low-income housing in their neighborhood, they are against it. I hate hypocrites. They have what are called luxury beliefs, things you advocate for because you won't be personally impacted. They say we need to defund the police because their neighborhood is unlikely to be impacted by soft on crime policies.
 

Call Me Tim

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On this question I see us more likely having an argument rather than a consensus. I am not getting too far deep into it. But I also brought it up to be objective and not pretend it is just one side of the debate.
It's a simple question. What should the top 10%, 20%, 30%, 40% 50% pay. Because they just about pay all the income taxes in the US.
I'm made my statement clear, it's too much.
Our conflicting opinions will not amount to much.
Just curious. You know we are going to disagree so what's the harm.
They are fakes. They virtue signal, pretending to care about issues, but the moment the solution impacts them, suddenly they don't like it. NIMBY's demand open borders but if you try to build low-income housing in their neighborhood, they are against it. I hate hypocrites. They have what are called luxury beliefs, things you advocate for because you won't be personally impacted. They say we need to defund the police because their neighborhood is unlikely to be impacted by soft on crime policies.
Ok. Makes sense now. the connection was a little obscure.
 
It's a simple question. What should the top 10%, 20%, 30%, 40% 50% pay. Because they just about pay all the income taxes in the US.
I'm made my statement clear, it's too much.
Our conflicting opinions will not amount to much.
Just curious. You know we are going to disagree so what's the harm.

I know it is a simple question and I am intentionally not answering it. The only thing a back and forth accomplishes is irritating those who are here for actual discussions. And I am not interested.

I never said anything specific like income taxes. My answer is the same as before, "We need to increase taxes on the rich while decreasing government spending."

It is a very generic statement and I am sticking to it.

Ok. Makes sense now. the connection was a little obscure.

It is a personal favorite. I think of them as having the same mindset as woke college professors. These animals don't care about anything but themselves.
 
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