We would live in a much better world if the Heavenly Kingdom of Tiaping seized power in China over the Qing Dynasty.

As we all know the Chinese are unmoraled freaks as is so the country becoming a Christian theocracy would give the Godless people something to believe in other than material wealth. It would also prevent the 1911 Revolution that formed the ROC and later the PRC as the government would be much stronger under Xiuquan's rule.

 
i mean, i'm a strict catholic but if a guy claims to be the brother of Jesus H Christ asks you to murder chinese people for him you don't argue
For some God forsaken reason the Brits and French sided with the Qing dynasty instead of Jesus's brother, its one of the worst mistakes made in known history.
 
we should've let japan take over china during ww1
 
I fully agree, i was thinking about this the other day.

The (((western powers))) joined the war against the heavenly kingdom.

Hong knew his fellow chinks where covid demons and was trying to fix them.

If he won, covid could have been prevented.

Rip holy warriors.

The war technicality was not fully stopped until 1871 btw.

It took 20 years for the chinks and mayo monkeys to defeat a bunch of christfag peasant chinks. Kek!
 
As we all know the Chinese are unmoraled freaks as is so the country becoming a Christian theocracy would give the Godless people something to believe in other than material wealth. It would also prevent the 1911 Revolution that formed the ROC and later the PRC as the government would be much stronger under Xiuquan's rule.

China would still be fucked as of 2025. It's not about what is used to convince the Chinese Bug People Society to follow the law (God, Communism, Money, etc) it's the manner of governance that the Chinese leaders use to stay in power where no one else is incentivized to give a shit about anything. And so much of that was tied to the way Imperial China ran things, namely its crippling and soul-sucking bureaucracy. The only thing the THK would've changed is placed God atop it, giving the 11th Commandment: Thou Shalt Be Bureaucratic.

A post-victory Taiping Heavenly Kingdom would've still ultimately run the country the same way the Qing did, just with different people involved. Reform was arguable, in-so-far that reforms would've only been one to replace the Chinese Emperor with God/Jesus/Jesus's younger brother. Instead, the system of oppression, tributary economics (cefeng), imperial exams, Qing bureaucratic systems, etc, would've likely stayed in place, and I argue THAT is what has had long term negative consequences to the Chinese world view. The Communists simply adopted that system for their benefit, implying that a THK system that likewise adopted that system would've been just as rotten to the core... simply rotting away 60 years earlier. To be fair, sure, some things like the banning of footbinding and reformation of land ownership systems might have created a more positive environment in the THK than Qing China, but I'd argue that that simply addresses the symptoms of China's ultimate Bug People Society problems, not the cause of it.

Speaking personally... I don't know one way or another if my world would've been better if the THK won. Korea was a tributary state under the Qing, so MAYBE the THK might've convinced Koreans to fight back against them, but all that would've done was put is in the crosshairs of Japan's growing imperialist ambitions. Worse case scenario is that the THK would've eventually invaded Korea to stomp out its Neo-Confucianist state and replace it with a Christian one, which... I mean, some Koreans might have been OK with it, but Korea didn't really become Christianized as it is today until Japanese Occupation, which tied Christianity as a form of passive rebellion against the Shintoist Japanese. Christianity in Korea during THK's time would've been seen as undue foreign influence and would've likely fought back against any attempt by the THK to convert it.

In any case, I don't see Korea coming out of the THK winning any better... because even if the THK won over the Qing, the new THK gov't still would've had a weakened military as it fought to maintain control internally, though MAYBE they would've been able to consolidate power by the 1890s, but they still likely wouldn't have been able to protect Korea alone against Japan. I doubt history would've even changed the name of the "First Sino-Japanese War", with the only difference being that the THK's Christian-lead system might have encouraged more Western (ie Christian Nation) support for it's cause, but I doubt it would've been more than a token show of support for their Chinese-Christian bretheren.

Furthermore, because the THK would've almost certainly remained fighting amonst themselves (in this case sucession matters after Hong Xiuquan died, assuming he lived past 1864), I can almost guarantee that the THK wouldn't have prevented the rise of the Communist Party, which IRL took advantage of a fractured ROC gov't against an invading Japanese Imperial Army. Arguably the THK might not have been able to stop the ROC, because people power was antithetical to the THK's mandate from God. MAYBE if the THK got their shit together and was able to repel the Japanese from invading China in the 1930s, then MAYBE the THK would've also given the Commies very little opportunity to gain power and influence. But that's just speculation at this point. The alternative could've happened: traditionalist, pro-Qing Imperial factions might have risen up around the same time as the rise of the ROC and CCP, and instead of the Chinese Civil War being a two-way fight between the ROC and CCP, it would've been a four way war between governmental THK forces, pro-Qing Imperial factions (which had some 60 years to reconsolidate power behind a new Qing Emperor), a democratic-focused ROC and a revolutionary CCP. And God only knows how much worse that would've been... especially with the Japanese Imperial Army using that infighting as a way to take China out for good.

So yeah, I don't see a THK China be much different in 2025 than the current Commie China. I think their best timeline would've been one where the ROC remained in power over China after WW2, the KMT was less hardlined and paranoid, and the Communists were relegated as an official opposition party in the Yuan. Every other cirumstance spells Chinese Bug People Society no matter who won.
 
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Both parties destroying themselves so that the chinks go extinct would be better
 
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