They were authoritarian.
Why do people think Che Guevara and George Orwell were punk rock or whatever?
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They were authoritarian, but their presentation was anti-establishment. Lots of edgy teens who hate their parents sympathize with that, I guess.
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Retards think Che was "punk," or great or whatever, because of the leftist worship of him. His "great victory," in Cuba was largely due to Kennedy fucking up the invasion, which was planned by someone who knew just a tad bit about invasions, the preceding president, Ike. Didn't matter that after that he lost every single battle, paid his soldiers in rape and pillage, hated negros with a passion that would give David Duke a hardon and the obvious lies about him to bolster any reputation as a "great military leader," or "fearless soldier" is still continuing to this day.
So when you have idiots who have not been taught anything and are hammered constantly with pop art that enshrines this guy, and you add completely false actions or overblow or misrepresent his statements, then these retards think, "Wow, Che was just a warrior poet that stuck it to the capitalists with little or no help."
Case in point, let me ask you this, if someone says, "I am more valuable to you alive than dead," do you think he's being arrogant? Do you get the feeling that someone saying something like this is in control? Or is he pleading for his life and trying to stave off the execution? Because those were his last words before (allegedly) he literally pissed himself and then was shot three times.
Orwell is considered a rebel because the world has shifted so far left. Plus, when he was writing about politics, it was seen as something to poo-poo since the 'free world' just beat the Nazis, so how could anyone think that their own government would turn to totalitarianism either in communist or fascist form which in all fairness is the same fucking thing.
So when you have idiots who have not been taught anything and are hammered constantly with pop art that enshrines this guy, and you add completely false actions or overblow or misrepresent his statements, then these retards think, "Wow, Che was just a warrior poet that stuck it to the capitalists with little or no help."
Case in point, let me ask you this, if someone says, "I am more valuable to you alive than dead," do you think he's being arrogant? Do you get the feeling that someone saying something like this is in control? Or is he pleading for his life and trying to stave off the execution? Because those were his last words before (allegedly) he literally pissed himself and then was shot three times.
Orwell is considered a rebel because the world has shifted so far left. Plus, when he was writing about politics, it was seen as something to poo-poo since the 'free world' just beat the Nazis, so how could anyone think that their own government would turn to totalitarianism either in communist or fascist form which in all fairness is the same fucking thing.
lolfuck that's a pretty fucking good summary
Orwell was a socialist, funny how he criticized communism when he promoted the ideology the leads to it
If Friedrich Hayek is to be believed, that was a common fallacy in intellectual circles of Britain at the time.
Bloody liberal do-gooders were fooled and betrayed their roots.
He was a libertarian socialist from what I can tell, right?
no such thing
Explain how one could be socialist and libertarian at the same time.
Usually through decentralization, with structures such as worker's councils, trade unions, citizen assemblies, etc.
Combined with a system of direct democracy, and in which the government does not interfere with the freedom of the press and people themselves.
It's very utopian thinking, I'll give you that
Socialism requires max centralization to work not be a colossal failure from the get go.
Call Me Tim
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FIFY
You should have just went with "Takes it in the ass while also willingly pays taxes for roads"
Call Me Tim
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Do you see the inherent problem with your "libertarian socialist" government?
You are just another one of those word salad people who jam together words in a pathetic attempt to rebrand something awful.
Call Me Tim
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Honestly, if you stupid neo-communists/socialist/democratic socialist/et al would just buy a house that had a home owner's association tied to it, all of you would run away screaming from your commie/centralized ideas so fucking fast you would make uh, don't have a good analogy here, so, hmm, all i got is you would make a very, very fast runner look slow in comparison.
I like it, except for the paying taxes part
Who says I believe in that you stupid nigger