The friends I made along the way

Ludwig Linkermann

Ludwig Linkermann

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Back in my youth when I discovered ED, I formed a very strange understanding of what this place is. I mainly hung out on the forums while having no idea what goes on in the wiki. I had this strange idea that on EDF (which was EDF 2), you can just say whatever offensive shit you like, there's an unwritten rule that it won't be taken as offensive. Therefore I posted freely without having to worry about accidentally offending anybody and I took no offense either. This invited some bullying from the then members of EDF, which I viewed under this lens. Plus I was undergoing IRL bullying at the time so the site overall helped me grow a thick skin. Drama happened when I was naively trying to understand why certain users were acting in certain ways basically.

ED in general had this outcast vibe to it and the users acted like outcasts as well. I had this sugarcoated view of the rest of the internet being respectful by comparison. I went into some fan cultures, doing my own thing (projects) and practically always exposed myself to bottom of the barrel lolcow tier pieces of shit. Their drama wasn't mainly with me and they always had enabler fans that did stupid things. Shit that would "warrant an ED article". I always thought about ED.

ED is everywhere. lol
 
I'll make this into a series of posts.

This one's more personal and the precursor to how I came to be on this site.

Epic Shit Stain
Went to a religious school. Had an absolutely degenerate classmate from a highly religious catholic family with many children. 5th grade, class trip, other kid had to take a shit, no toilet paper. This began the narrative of the kid shitting himself and would be relentlessly bullied. Slap fights were a weekly sight here and none of the teachers cared until it became too much. Love thy neighbor, right?

The main bully was this catholic kid who was friends with the school radio guy and sent a homoerotic song to the shit stain kid. One time he told him to smear shit on his tits for him. Yeah I thought, this wasn't a bully but a major degenerate.

During all this, I had a BFF who promised to protect me from teh bullies and we hung out a lot. Then by 8th grade his parents got a divorce and he started being a massive dick about it and replaced me with the kid who introduced me to Tarot btw (Finnish metal band, Marko Hietala lead who later joined Nightwish, still a favorite). Penultimate week, I had a violent meltdown. 4-5 classmates holding me down, I beat this BFF up so his lips began to bleed and he ran away to the class teacher. The class teacher called me down to the school yard to shame me for crying while being a boy and excused me for the last week. I went home alone and crying.

Protector into meanest bully pussy, lol. We can't have nice things. The emotional damage was done and I'd been seeking replacement protectors, getting duped by manipulators, until I realized this was going on.
 

RPG Maker Degenerates​

Beside the irl shenanigans, this was the time I first got Internet and my first site was a dead community called MoonDragon Entertainment, who made 2 games in RPG Maker. The first one was no longer working because they made it in the shitty RM95. I then went to the rival site Ruby Dragon Entertainment (everyone was a fuck you im a dragon), ran by a lolcow calling himself Zrokky. I accidentally hurt his feelings with a joke, so he started a pathetic topic where he and his simps would publicly slander people after banhammering them like a pussy. Zrokky's shtick was that everyone's a hater from MoonDragon who wants to steal from his games. His first shitty game got rightfully picked apart on that site. So he used this to build a victim narrative around himself. ...then he created a "Game Portal" to host RM games where they obnoxiously called every game shit that wasn't made by him or his inner circle, effectively driving more and more people away. Posting a "MoonDragon troll's" IP publicly and asking for him to be harassed didn't help either.

Very few other forums opened, but they all imploded in the most anti-lulz way. And essentially every game made was a forced "humor" game about how X person is gay. The best of these teenage shitposts was a game that featured Gyurcsány (Hungary's then prime minister) as a manipulative CEO who controls gypsies. The ending was so gay I couldn't make it up: Gyurcsány is beheaded while Naruto music plays. Of course, this came nowhere near in cringe to the slop Zrokky produced: he wrote anime romance plots centered around humiliation and added "ambiguous" joke scenes such as the love couple trying to fit flowers into a vase off screen. This was presented in a way to make it sound like they were fucking. His target audience of 13 year old fanboys found these hilarious.

As for my role, I was way too young to understand what I was up against. I tried making up to him for the joke he got butthurt over and each time he made up more bullshit to paint me as an enemy. One of his admins was a batshit cosplayer who called herself Alice. She'd send me Code Geass hentai and tell me she was studying to become a psychologist. Naturally, everything I told her "in cofidence" was broadcasted to Zrokky and they referenced it in that slander topic. They also held irl meetings where they built snowmen onto the road or almost hit each other with fireworks.

I eventually entered high school and one of my classmates trolled Zrokky into meltdown with shock videos. He was hiding behind my identity, so I got the threats. Eventually Zrokky's community imploded due to in-fighting and I didn't want to stick around either. I wanted to create a remake of that MoonDragon game which didn't work but it was twisted as evidence that I'm a "MoonDragon troll" as well and overall I didn't feel like finishing an RM game when the audience would be trash like these.

This classmate is the one who introduced me to ED. He and his online friend came to EDF to spam badly translated posts they collected from a dyslexic guy. Naturally, this was retarded and nobody found it funny. One of them was The Hipster Dudola, I don't remember the other.I used the username Wolf Sinister and we all got banned by Oddguy. This is referenced in the FOTY article (falsely calling them my socks):
Linkermann - The only nominee who believes having a banned account should make him win, Linkermann recently revealed himself and his dozen sock accounts to prove that he is the king of faggotry. WolfSinister (who was considered for nomination in 2012 along with two other socks), as he was previously known, was banned for extreme faggotry and received a frontal team assault from two admins, has since been posting under a number of different accounts until settling on Linkermann.
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We were discovering what furries were at the time. I linked some dragon nun's FA on the forums. Funny story. The dragon nun found out and went super schizo: he larped as me on 4chan to protect himself and posted as another sock to agree with himself.

I didn't stick around EDF at this time. The troll classmate failed math and we never saw each other again. He got butthurt for getting banned and others thinking he was my sock (which is funny because he enjoyed the exact same situation when trolling Zrokky in my name, guess I wasn't getting death threats from EDF and he found that unfair lol). He later tried to rip off ED on wikia, this is how I know about his butthurt. He wrote an article about himself being a high level troll and I was at fault for ED not recognizing this. Plus he was "cleverly" trolling irl me in secret.
 
I return again to continue my wacky stories. I try to make it interesting, but frankly, it's just people behaving as subhuman trash. I can only color it so far.
I'll keep this story much shorter because it's all it deserves.

Why I came to EDF - The Big Gay RPG Maker Civil War​

A friend of mine got Internet for the first time and started checking out RPG Maker on a lesser known forum called Frost Dragon (yes, another dragon). So I took a look back. Practically, he dragged me back into the topic. But of course, everyone involved with RM was a social retard and this forum combusted via in-fighting as well. Glorian, the loser who got banhammered from Frost Dragon came over to a forum I started and made petty revenge games about literally everyone who ever hurt his feelings without me realizing it - because it was that pathetic that no sane person would think someone would do such a thing, but that's another story (and the Steel Widow article already breaks it down).

So I made my own forum then Zrokky's fucking forum imploded for the hundredth time. The refugees came over and then a 12-year-old girl shared half a dozen disturbingly long and unhinged messages she got from Zrokky about how I only made a forum to destroy his community. Some people did their research and he did this to every RPG Maker forum that wasn't his. It was utterly pathetic + I didn't appreciate the character assassination and the involvement of a way underage little girl, so I showed uberfukken the compiled evidence and he wrote the Ruby Dragon article, finding the topic ED material.
 

Uber's dox / "Schnookums is a baby back bitch"​

Uber shared some personal information with me, justifying it with a vague he "feels he can trust me", which made absolutely no sense whatsoever. Apparently I wasn't the only one whom he told this. I interpreted it as a gesture, of wanting to make friends. So for the most time, I logged on to chat with uber in DMs. The things we talked about only reinforced this image of him trusting me. On the public forums, I just shitposted and tried to understand weird people I found interesting at the time. @Lulzbomb and @Milwin were great guys and totally friendly, zero malice. I'd disappear for long periods of time then return, I missed out on a lot of forum drama/simply didn't care. (Never read the Tom Preston thread and I'm proud of that lol.) Didn't watch the wiki either.

@Schnookums in hindsight was a total creep, however. He tried to social engineer me for uber's dox. It failed. (His method: forced furry roleplay, the logs that exposed him + uber kicking his ass: https://edramatica.com/User:OtterWhiskers/Schnookfag)
@Witty illustration:
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The chapter dealing with this in his article was written by Vermin/SickPuppy, another person I tried to make sense of. (Exhibitionist loser who went so far for clout that he bought a Wilkins coffee mug and used the wolf from the obscure Croatian cartoon schnook-creep took his avatar from. We watched that cartoon on movie night and laughed at the sheer faggotry of pretending to be the purple weasel from it btw. First and last 2 images here are Vermin: https://edramatica.com/User:Schnookums/Personal_fap_vault).

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Schnookums

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Aside from insufferable belly rubs, the logs basically revealed that Schnookums had only been buttering Linkermann up the entire time so he could extract Uberfukken's given name from him, a fact which Uberfukken has actually shared with many EDiots who aren't obsessive stalkers. Apparently he needed to add it to his list of personal information he had compiled by reading through several years worth of Uber's forum/shoutbox posts.

This forum drama caused Schnookums to become an inspiring subject for music, including two diss raps from a ban-evading veteran originally believed to be a noob, and two collaborations by drunken forum rat Weezus Christ, all of which can be found below.
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The diss rap was Vermin inserting himself into shit he had nothing to do with. The Weezus Christ audios were fun. I was trying to imitate the trash vocals of early Avenged Sevenfold slop at the time and contributed. (Found the band through NFS Most Wanted.)

Schnookums at the time was in some IRC channel ran by a failed admin and there was some weird sexual exploitation going on by this admin. At least, that's how I understand it now, so I won't name the woman exploited for this reason. Back at the time, when flinging casual insults back and fort, I used to bring this up without comprehending what went down and later she wanted this story to get buried. That's the channel where schnookums was discussing going after uber and sparked the whole callout.

All in all, I didn't want to get involved in Uber's fight and didn't appreciate the manipulation attempt. Despite being hailed as a hero for log dropping weasel.

Then Uber and Schnookums made up - another incomprehensible turn of events. I trusted Uber and gave Schnookums a second chance. I leaned into this forced "the otter and the weasel" dynamic for fun. Vermin was forcing similar, even including me since I gave him attention - until his meltdown. In general, I was learning English at the time and did all sorts of stupid things just to understand the language better. Schnookums would voice chat often (even if I couldn't speak). For the most part, it wasn't weird. (...then he showed me a picture of his shit-stained toilet.)
 
I REMEMBER U VAGUELY, U WERE POSTING ABOUT SEX WITH WEASELS AND VARIOUS OTHER CREEPY, SEXUAL DEVIANT SHIT WITH UR OTHERR GAY WEIRDO DWEEBS ON THIS FORUM.

(seriously u gotta realize that while ur busting ur ass at work or providing for a family, you have people like this living in RPG maker Otter Weasel sex confetti and pink strawberry baloon cake land and busting nuts all over himself 24/7) THIS PAIN THEN MAKES ME WANT 2 INFLICT PAIN ONTO U, VIA BRUTAL ELBOW STRIKES

PEACE
 
Addendum: Gave a read to the schnookums logs. That was full on grooming. It's astonishing how he got me to eventually capitulate to his forced sexual roleplay sick fuckery even to the point that I initiated. Come to think of it, I saw similar involving influencer/streamer grooming drama. The same script, striking similarity between the targets'/victims' behaviors. Heh.
 
There's not that much more to this story now; however, the above's yet another amusing piece to the puzzle. Two realities are true at the same time: I was sexually groomed by schnookums here and at the same time I was receptive to this fuckery. Meaning, I won't hide behind a simply 'was groomed' excuse for my own faggotry. This schnookums experience significantly influence my other interactions under the lens of viewing EDF as a surreal sandbox. Other deeply disturbing shit happened in the background, too.

In general, I viewed communicating in English online as a sort of 'safe space', where I'd test out scenarios I'd stay clear of irl. Somewhere the line got blurred and I'd feel detachment when sharing details about myself. I was basically roleplaying online; I never identifies with my usernames and hated when people irl called me one of my online handles. I had multiple for safety reasons. I'd get creative with them and come up with complex personalities/quirks. I adopted the "ED language" as part of one of these personas and also used the site to learn about swear words nobody would teach. The schnookums grooming, I believe, significantly eroded my sense of bounderies, too.

It was never an attempt at making friends on schnookums' side, it was plain grooming and manipulation. I forgave schnookums under uber's influence and because at the time I didn't knotice this. Now I question uber's moral compass. He was significantly older than me, so he can't have not seen it for what it was. It's even more illogical now to forgive a sick fuck like schnookums now.

More Deplorables in Education​

Something extreme happened in high school, for which I felt I was 50% to be blamed and jotted up the rest to kids being jerks. I recently talked with my former classmates who were involved and learn it was teacher interference. Here's what truly happened:

Our head teacher was our English teacher. He taught in the US and was a flaming Madonna fag. Also got jelous of my English skills and actively sabotaged me after I got my language exam, which is one of the most pathetic things in existence. Behind my back, he portrayed me as a sexual harasser without my knowledge, TWICE.

First year, I made friends with a girl. I followed after her during sightseeing on our class trip. I later caught on she was avoiding me and at one point she even told me not to follow her, which I honored, but felt a bit bed. Then the next day she initiated by talking to me and I attempted a friendly gesture of giving her a flower. This happened in front of everyone and I didn't realize at the time the pressure I created. Others told me she was spreading mean-spirited rumors behind my back. This was a deliberate lie to pit us against each other - a later fight was even recorded. At the time I concluded it was retaliation and a friend betraying me. Her reality? She never viewed us as friends, just classmates who talked. The head teacher scared her that I'd attempt to harass her. He fed her a targeted adult sentence that I apparently asked 'how many rejections until it can be taken seriously?' - a teeneger doesn't speak like that. This fucker's sick in the head. This is something that could've been solved in 2 minutes instead of having to find out a decade later. No disciplinary action was taken and I was never told someone's afraid of me for perceived sexual harassment, which was only occuring in her mind and because of this teacher.

There was a guy who tried to console me. The situation was similar to my religious school situation. This guy took my side against a friend-turned-bully and I was greatful for that. I misinterpreted my feelings at the time and the whole thing got twisted into me being gay and making a move on this guy. I soon realized this and apologized for the inconvenience and viewed it as case closed, we moved on. Then my parents told me the head teacher said behind my back that I'm sexually harassing this guy now. This teacher had some serious issues. Well, he left his wife and went back to America to be gay.

This incident left a deep mark in me. I was ghosted irl for the rest of high school by my entire class. I looked for friends elsewhere. Afterwards I was in very few intimate situations and could never get an erection. I always felt dull tension I couldn't place.

This is why I hung around on EDF, using it as a way to grow a thicker skin. Once could say my sense of bounderies was utterly messed with.

Talking to the girl later gave me a lot of relief: I wasn't betrayed and ridiculed by a former friend, we were not friends and it was a misunderstanding. The lack of betrayal is the key information here. This is ultimately why I've decided to dump this long analysis here.
 
* who are you
* why should I care about any of this
* lose some weight fatty
* who gives a FUCK

Typing this as a shit at my six figure tech job I have bc I dont waste my time getting involved w *scrolls back up* rpg maker forum drama?? Honestly even worse than I imagined Jesus fucking Christ go outside
 

Otter Dead on Arrival & The Almost Rape​

This was at the end of my time on EDF. There were a lot of incidents I was in the dark about, including William Atchison's felony. I stepped in after the ousting of Zaiger. Something else happened, causing SeeBeen to randomly give me admin. This was when I used that OtterWhiskers joke persona. (It was a phase plus I deliberately leaned a lot into the furfaggotry.) I found that too many people took it seriously and that there was some inexplicable jealousy or similar going on because many people's behavior drastically changed. ...

Just look at the profile and say it's not a joke: https://edramatica.com/user:OtterWhiskers
I wrote this while I was doing my English Studies paper to practice academic writing. A scrapped sentence I found too cringe to use but would've thematically fit:
ED is my OL girlfriend.
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I won't get much into those shenanigans. Rather, this is when I started paying attention to the wiki and saw that the majority of people writing articles are just as petty and pathetic as to warrant their own articles (by the ED metric I applied). I hung out in wil's cesspool of a discord server. There and in forum DMs, I started getting bizarre sexual messages. Some guy was always on about how I "stole" his penis. (I later learned this was a fetish.) Some people did the "uber thing" but with nudes: sent me compromising nudes I could "destroy him with" because I seemed trustworthy. I shared nudes with a mod called megamanly - that was on me. He was fat and believed I was turned on by him, but actually I just liked us praising each other. I showed some mild nudes because I wasn't insecure about my body. Don't laugh. It was on me and it's a stupid reasoning.

Some shit with Conrad happened and I saw people at each other's throat, fighting for who gets ED. I was pretty sick of the whole thing at that point and left.

Before this I had a meltdown on the forums, asking to be killed. Many traumatic events piled up, such as almost losing my childhood home. It was also when I was trying to check out what irl furries were. The guy I made friends with had trouble with girlfriends. I had to save him from one because she was emotionally manipulating him with suicide threats and he was too weak to escape. Then the same guy got me into a car accident and then an almost rape scenario. I blacked out most of it. They pretended to be friendly then went full humiliator/degrader and it was a miracle I got out alive. I also checked a different city and bumped into a literal pedo who had a harem of high school and college boys. He kept a list of their birthdays and they gifted each other presents. He tried to make a move on me and I got out. Of the whole furry thing. The impression I got was that it's a community where everyone does it with everyone. And just no on my part.

Why am I even telling you this? It wasn't as big of a deal compared to the other filth. Though this one did cause a memory blank.
 
I can't believe I'm the one that's going to say this, but you need to bury shit that happened 10+ years in the past and leave it in the past. If it made you feel any better dumping it for someone to maybe read, fine, hope it made you feel better getting that off your chest.

And @Schnookums will probably come back around December for some reason like he did the last two years, so you can get final closure then if you want.
 
Ludwig Linkermann said:
Our head teacher was our English teacher. He taught in the US and was a flaming Madonna fag. Also got jelous of my English skills and actively sabotaged me after I got my language exam, which is one of the most pathetic things in existence. Behind my back, he portrayed me as a sexual harasser without my knowledge, TWICE.
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Ludwig Linkermann said:
This is why I hung around on EDF, using it as a way to grow a thicker skin. Once could say my sense of bounderies was utterly messed with.
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I don't think you're interested in a solution, just someone to validate your experiences.
 

End Revelations​


I entered a gaming subculture with the purpose of doing fan mods. Someone latched onto me and played the victim card when I found out about the manipulation. This was basically another episode of me chatting online on a daily basis with someone who pretended to care (and put a lot of effort into it). It surfaced that that person had a lot of skeletons in their closet.

At this point I looked up manipulation techniques and personality disorders.

The RPG Maker saga concluded with me having to drop Steel Widow/Glorian because of the way they treated a mutual friend who had autism. I've been doing a nostalgia video series where I analyze RPG Maker games from my childhood and find the signs/'red flags' I missed in the case of problematic people. I looked at our past collaborations with Steel Widow, saw that characters made after real people were there and treated exceptionally poorly (women shamed, past friends destroyed), remembered my experiences with that team, and put together practically how I was fooled into collaborating on a bad RM game that is essentially a digital burn book (a very abnormal, pathetic one).

So this little post-analysis/reminiscing started from there. I expanded it to everything strange that happened to me. Most of it is too off-topic for a series on hobby JRPGs.

I concluded that the whole Hungarian RPG Maker community was a circus of primitive, hateful people seeking to prove their worth. It was all about clout. The normal people got chased away. I finished game projects outside of that fandom too.

Many people who spend a long time on the internet (regardless of website) have some problem and chatting with them at length is unhealthy.

As for ED/F: I was never a troll. I don't find joy in mocking others. I inherently am not a hateful person and find it hard to hold grudges. I don't seek valiation either. EDF is merely one of the places that helped me how to detect malice and manipulation.

I enjoyed the movie nights though. The rest of it was a pretense friendship with uber, which I naively believed in. End of story.
 
Think a little. ED/F isn't a place people come to seek validation. Therefore, I did not dump this here for anyone to validate my feelings. It fit here the most.
I don't seek "final closure" either. It's already a closed case.

(Trivia: A subtle touch I added to keep it interesting for myself: I started in 'ED/F lingo' and progressively dropped that vocabulary. The final post has none of it.)

Take care now.

fleacollerindustry said:
I don't think you're interested in a solution, just someone to validate your experiences.
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Heidi the girl said:
I can't believe I'm the one that's going to say this, but you need to bury shit that happened 10+ years in the past and leave it in the past. If it made you feel any better dumping it for someone to maybe read, fine, hope it made you feel better getting that off your chest.

And @Schnookums will probably come back around December for some reason like he did the last two years, so you can get final closure then if you want.
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Ludwig Linkermann said:
I concluded that the whole Hungarian RPG Maker community was a circus of primitive, hateful people seeking to prove their worth. It was all about clout. The normal people got chased away. I finished game projects outside of that fandom too.
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virtually all human cultures end up like that-----have you ever worked for a large corporation?
get a job in a corporate office, and see identical primitive hatefulness...............
 
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