Call Me Tim
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ALL ABOOT CANADA
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spartacus1188
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Canada is already overcrowded with fucking pajeets.
I think euthanasia should be an option against immigrants, junkies, and the homeless.
spartacus1188
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Pajeet judge will take your job and make you homeless, then get you to kill yourself. Its a sick world and our countries and institutions have betrayed us.
spartacus1188
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Hopefully orange jesus trump, will save us all.
Hes probaly going to be used by Blackrock to ransack the American economy and their will be a containment policy towards america. China Russia and Global South are the biggest market, the billionare class will try to speed up american decline.
spartacus1188
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Then I need to prepare my bugout bag, and prepare for urban survival.
Urban situation will come to small towns. Canada will collapse in a few years. It will get rough. Just be close to your family and your tribe, try to have a gf and kids. Evil men need to do the right thing.
Call Me Tim
EDF Hero
The chance of Urban area survival in a SHTF scenario, is slim to none.
Reasons:
Food. Most supermarkets have a three day supply of food. When the SHTF guess where everyone is going? Yeah. If you think the Black Friday Sales riots in Walmart are bad over cheep Chinese goods are violent, wait till you see people worrying about their next meal for themselves or people close to them. "Bullet festival" is not even going to begin to illustrate that event. Likewise with big box stores like hardware, furniture, drug (of course) etc., Grow your own? You're not going to magically create an indefinite food source in your apartment living room overnight.
Stealing. People will be stealing for the sake of stealing so they may trade for something in the future. I imagine people will be having serious gunfights over Skibbity Toilet dishtowels. Urban areas are already more violent places thanks to the "Defund the Police" bullshit. Last minute hires just before or during SHTF event won't bring law and order. Chances are, and as reports are showing, DEI last minute hires are often more dangerous to the public than help.
Shelter: If you live in an apartment building, you're fucked. One way in one way out. Good luck if some asshat decides for shits and giggles, to light the floor below you on fire.
Water. You're completely reliant on municipal sources. If you holed up in your apartment on the 5th floor and think you're safe; what happens if the Horde breaches the basement and shuts off the water to entire building. Within three days, you're either leaving or dead.
Travel. Next time you hear of a hurricane, take notice of the evacuation routes. They are always clogged. People don't prepare and it takes only one retard who thinks that a quarter tank of gas is magically take them 300 miles in 15-30 MPH traffic. Once they break down/run out of fuel the overall travel time increases because now four lanes are reduced to three, and given how retarded people are nowadays, is the possibility of a road rage incident less or greater.
Society/mindset. Their are a certain percentage of people who just want to cause mayhem. I don't know if the percentage of people are greater or less (guessing less but don't know what their mindset would be in a SHTF situation) in rural areas, so to even get out of a heavily urban area and make distance to that bullshit, may be a significant challenge.
Rural or suburban areas have dangers as well. So there's really no perfectly "good" place. Just some places slightly better than others, however, urban is probably the worst situation of the three.
spartacus1188
Newfag
Hmm. Ok. Thanks for the breakdown.
But what about just heading into the Bush?
I.e, hunting, fishing, foraging, ect.?
Call Me Tim
EDF Hero
Biggest thing about lone wolfing in the wilderness is security. You are open to the elements and wildlife as well. In a building you are safer from wild threats and the elements, but you are more easily targeted/identified by two legged predators. It's a trade off. Plus you lose domicile concealment/cover.
Plus, all supplies and tools have to be carried. There's no real "best situation."
Many think, I'll just hunt my way through it. Gunshots can be heard for miles (unless suppressed). But even then, if supersonic, you'll hear the crack of the round breaking the sound barrier. Though if you do, they are very close. So a compound bow may be a better choice for hunting. However, for defense it means you'll be lugging a 7-9 lbs rifle as well.
Fishing may be a better alternative, however fishing puts you in a largely indefensible position: river/creek bank, you're in a natural low ground spot, soft/soggy/sandy ground so movement might be hindered, and little to no cover or concealment while fishing.
Foraging really depends on the season. You're not going to find too many plant edibles during the summer/winter or spring.
In an wilderness situation, numbers is probably the best defense. One or two fish/hunt while the others pull security. However, more people means more noise, slower travel, more resources needed for day to day operations, and bigger footprint. I would say a minimum of four would be best then you could work 12 on and 12 off. But the ones pulling overnight watch aren't going to be too spry during the day. All this will take a toll on your morale and health. Which should be a serious concern.
The whole SHTF scenario is a bigger disaster than most people think. The wilderness bug out means a lot of work. Which many don't realize or want to realize. You might spend a good chunk of your day just hauling water and purifying it. That task takes away form trapping, fishing, hunting, building, etc.
The best case in that situation is a secluded hunting/fishing lodge that you or very few people know about, that can be defensible, you would know the landscape, and the amount of return that land or range can supply. Every deer you take, means one less one that is available and it takes time to replenish the herd. Not to mention that there are others out there trying to feed themselves and their companions, and in doing so may develop a hording type mentality as well. Instead of killing one deer, they take three or four to preserve for a later date - just in case. During SHTF no one is going to be checking bag limits. more deer/game out, means they replenish slower. Unless you live in an area known for wild hogs. But pigs are smart they are not really predictable like typical game. However, when you arrive, there may be others who have stumbled upon your privately owned property and may not like the idea of giving up that position.
So there is no real good answer. Its a bad situation all around, and something not to be wished for.
So just for minimum load out for completely off the land hunting/protection, you'll need say a rifle, a pistol, the ammo, a compound bow at least a dozen arrows, a good bush knife, a hatchet, a saw (maybe) water purification, water containers, fire starters, and cold and wet weather gear. Even if you sacrificed a few items say the knife for the hatchet, ditch the pistol, etc., you're still looking at 50lbs of gear and that doesn't include water and food weight.
Then there is the choice of what firearm to take. AR15 556 vs AR308? Light and maneuverable vs range and superior terminal ballistics AND fucking heavy? Common ammo available vs, something a little less common? Pistol: 357 revolver vs 9mm vs 45 vs 22lr? How many rounds do you take? Official battle load while I was in Iraq was 6+1. More often than not we duct taped our +1 to another mag upside down, giving us +2. But that exposes the feed lips to dirt and debris and can affect reliability and the ability to lie flat in the prone. However many line units would typically carry an additional 10-15 mags extra in their QRF (go)bag (small backpack).
I'm not telling you one way or the other. You plan out what you think is best. If this gives you doomer vibes, then yeah I think you understand what the challenges are.
spartacus1188
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Thank you my friend.
It's a lot to think about and consider.
I tend to lean towards the Bush option.
But like you said, the 50lbs of gear is the problem.
Hopefully we never experience a shtf scenario.
It's a lot to think about and consider.
I tend to lean towards the Bush option.
But like you said, the 50lbs of gear is the problem.
Hopefully we never experience a shtf scenario.
Call Me Tim
EDF Hero
Yeah in a way I want a SHTF as much as I don't want it.
It would sure clean out 70% of the shit in society. But the true shit, the elites and the jews, have already prepared for this. Mark Fuckersberg has already built his Hawaii doomsday bunker that is so fucking big it supposedly can grow a years worth of food stuffs. So he's self sustainable. Same with Oprah, etc.,
But many will perish for the sole reason they believe the gubbermint will protect them and provide for them. I used to attend a prepper's meeting, it was largely a bunch of boomers still fighting the cold war, and oddly many women were hawking essential oils, autism is created by vaccines fucktardary, etc., and believing they could make their SHTF holdout scenario like some sort of island of peace in a landscape of chaos. Fucking retards.
That is NOT b.s.
The number of vaxxecutions that children receive by age 3 is INSANE.
spartacus1188
Newfag
lots of rich assholes have their "contingency plan". but it's a plan with a problem: they have made numerous enemies, who can figure out where they are hiding--because the companies who run apocalypse shelters had to ADVERTISE. everyone on Kauai knows where Zucc's stupid hideout is, because THEY BUILT IT. zucc did nothing but write checks, on funds he borrowed from banks using his shitty Meta stock as collateral. ah, the arrogance of wealth.
preppers are mocked precisely because so many of them are stupid.
keep a LOW profile, do not advertise your interest in prepping. we never hear about the smart ones because they know better.
Call Me Tim
EDF Hero
You don't get it. He doesn't have to go above ground if he doesn't want to. When the SHTF there's not going to be explosives or machinery available to breach the doors. The real flaw is what does he do when they are the last few. In a few short generations they'll be so inbred that they won't survive.
Well that's to a certain point. Most people think preppers are stupid because they rob themselves of a higher quality of life for some unforeseen event. Some people may know or still remember I am, however, I'm sure they'll be too busy fighting off the Hordes to get to me.
you may be right but he will always be a target. might be no one to witness it anyway, no internet to shitpost videos to