Car thread obligatory

Call Me Tim said:
Harley Davidson has been dead for nearly 20 years, HD doesn't realize it yet.

The article doesn't mention that the only way the stock is not crashing due to poor sales, and loss of assets, is the company is busy taking out loans for the sole purpose of buying up lose shares of stock and artificially keeping the stock price high.

The reason why they would do this is to court buyers into buying HD and using the growing stock price as a metric in valuating the brand. No one is falling for it, and HD is officially dead in, I'm guessing 5-7 years. I don't think they'll get a bail out, because by then I'm sure no one will care about HD since HD has literally built it's brand on the 1%'ers since the sixties. Which they could have turned around in the 80's, but all the boomers wanted to larp as Son's of Anarchy walk ons. Which is weird because those types of clubs really don't tolerate posers or wannabes, and if you say you're part of club and stupid enough to wear their colors or something that says you are affiliated with them directly or indirectly, they'll either stomp the shit out of you, or if the chapter president has any brains at all, set you up to get your ass kicked by a rival gang to bring the heat down on them, which most likely won't happen since most biker gangs either are working for the feds or have a vested interest in working with the fed to some small degree.
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Never rode motorcycles yet, but heard Indian's were the go to bike.
 

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Demonic87 said:
Never rode motorcycles yet, but heard Indian's were the go to bike.
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The sad reality of US made bikes and the US motorcycle market, is that it's dictated by HD. Every fucking thing is heavy cruiser. There are US "muscle" bikes but in reality it's just a cruiser with slightly shortened forks to increase the rake and give it a more pronounced stance and a slight increase in handling which the bulk of all riders wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

HD did dip a toe into the sport bike market by buying Buell in the 90's and then succeeded in promptly running Buell into the ground, even though Buell was completely capable of colossally failing on it's own. Buell was an "American," ie HD sport bike using the low end torque and excessively lobbing firing HD engine: shit tons of low end torque, low top RPM, and a transmission built for highway cruising and not wide banned for vigorous sport bike riding, combine that with limited RPM range and you have a motorcycle that wallows in the turns and doesn't do well if you want well managed power on the track, lastly don't forget it's heavy and has a higher center of gravity (thanks to to the tall engine) than most well established competitors.

The goal was to use HD parts and "reputation" without pissing off the HD base which was nearly entirely consisting of rapidly aging and excessively overweight 40-50 something boomers who after watching the movie Wild Hogs three times, got the idea, of "hey I always wanted to look like a member of a meth dealing outlaw biker gang, but I don't actually want to risk ending up as a prison bitch."

That "market model" what each US motorcycle company targets: the 1% larper. And I can't believe I'm saying this, thank God for the zoomers for killing this, by asking themselves: why do I want a expensive, slow, and heavy bike that makes people instantly mentally connect me with some sort of violent biker gang. Don't get me wrong there are plenty of questionable zoomer biker gangs doing the same shit on Japanese bikes. However, I can jump on a Jap or BMW and not worry about being associated with being a 1%'er while people would look at me twice if it was an HD or other US made bike.

Imagine basing your projected annual motorcycle sales and market share on projected meth sales and meth salesmen larpers.

The other US selling point is nostalgia. Not real nostalgia but this fake Hebrewood/TV nostalgia: The Wild Ones, Easy Rider, Sons of Anarchy, etc. which is fucking retarded.

Now enter the third US made motorcycle company, which started in the late 1990's, Polaris. Victory was a water cooled and slightly modernized cruiser bike which copied and borrowed styles from both HD and Indian. The fenders and tank wasn't as swoopy as Indian, the saddlebags were of a neat and clean modern design and they avoided the leather option along as the obligatory fringe as well. Polaris as well as Indian, of course kept the HD styled piston arrangement, however, Polaris incorporated fake cooling fins to mimic HD, but they were unnecessary, the Victory was completely water cooled. Polaris did some other stuff like upgrade the ignition, introduce computer control chips, increase the intake and exhaust valves and introduced water cooling. Which HD finally is just now completed all those modifications to their standard production line. nearly 40 years later. Yeah.

All of these bikes are prohibitively expensive. And the reasoning is, "after they learn how to ride on one of those jap bikes, they'll 'come to their senses and buy an HD or the like." Absolutely not. Only a boomer retard thinks that, and if you MUST spend a shit ton of money on a bike, there are other options: MotoGuzzi, Ducati, BMW, etc., and if there is any brand cross over it's not to US companies BECAUSE of the association with the 1%'ers.

In conclusion, South Park was 100% on the mark, once again.
 
I can't help to think that the Hells Angels set them up.

Imagine you're in a white's only biker club, females all running around tits hanging out, and your "prospect" affiliate rides up and it's the Singhs of Anarchy.

The SoA would immediately begin rape attempts and the HA would end up with dozens of bodies to dispose of. Talk about a buzz kill and PITA.

"No Diamond, (Who works at Juggernaughts Gentleman's Club) I got to flush half a dozen jeets, we'll have to raincheck that BJ and fuckfest."
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