Call Me Tim

Dramacrat
I'd love to see a PDW that's just a machine pistol with an extended barrel (+ handguard) and stock. Kind of like this C96 but imagine it chambered in a rifle-like cartridge.

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That shoots a 38 pistol cartridge. No fucking way you're putting a rifle cartridge in that.

And it's retarded. Pistol rounds are terrible. Even shot out of a 16 inch barrel. Little energy increase per length of barrel.
If the 5.7 was capable of full-auto, then it would be perfect. If you took a G17 or M17, extended the barrel and added a stock (+ handguard), you'd have your own SMG, albeit in semi-auto so not an SMG, just a PCC. Seeing a Hi-Power used to make one would be cool though.
5.7 is certain capable of full auto. But is it available to the general public? No.
HiPower? Wut? That's just a 9mm in a 1911 frame. What on earth are you talking about.
Edit: Forget my original statement, I'd love to see a pistol of any cartridge and any action, have an extended barrel, handguard and stock slapped onto it. Chamber it in .22 and you could even (if the barrel is over 12 inches) get it in the UK. Yum.
Ok you clearly don't know.
 

Call Me Tim

Dramacrat
I mean if it were to be converted to fire something like (for example) 5.7 or a hypothetical derivative that fires a rifle-like cartridge.
all short action cartridges are not rifle rounds. You don't know what you're talking about. a 5.7 is a pistol round.
I meant to say Fiveseven, not 5.7, I mean the actual pistol which is only semi-auto. It'd be cool to see a full auto Fiveseven made into a PDW.
5.7×28mm cartridge is for the 5/7.

and Kel Tec already makes one. I don't like it. too much plastic, clamshell construction, and the weight is going to be thrown off as one empties out the mag

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It would take a few parts and an hour to convert this to full auto. I'm sure KelTec already has the designs if full auto ever returns to the US civilian market. It won't pass the FBI endurance test so factory full autos are not being made.

Again kid you don't know what you are talking aobut.
I think a Hi-Power could be used to make a neat PCC.

What I'm saying is, I'd love to see more pistols (any cartridge and/or action) have an extended barrel, handguard and stock slapped onto them. To make cute PDW's, SMG's and PCC's.
Pistol carbine kits for the HiPower are available, though a little difficult to find. Buttstock attachments, etc., and you can get longer custom made barrels.
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The question is why.

Range and power are not that much greater, and it's more cumbersome.

Again, yum.
Don't be gay. Guns are not "yum." They are kick ass, fucking awesome, or Fucking Hell yea, or the like. You millennials/alfalfashave this tendency to fag everything up. Stop. Stop it right fucking now.

Neutering a rifle cartridge to pistol strength is doing the same thing but going the other way in design.


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This is a 10.5 Daniel Defense in 556. The round leaves the barrel at just about 2600 fps which means it's officially lethal to about 60-70 yards max. Don't get me wrong, I can easily reach out to 200 yards and I wouldn't want to be shot with it either. What I mean is the 556 is speed dependent on being effective. Anything under 2500 feet per second and the bullet is not guaranteed to fracture

However, due to the design of the bullet you'll get more predictable flight characteristics and more consistent terminal ballistics (wounding).

So if you want to know about guns, there's this thing called the internet. You can use it to learn about guns so the next time you won't look like a retard. It's ok to be wrong, but it's clear you don't have the foggiest notion on what you're talking about.
 

Call Me Tim

Dramacrat
The North Korean military uses this AK variant with a top folding stock and 75 round helical magazine. (Type 88-2)
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Looks cursed as hell
They "use" them because they don't work and are too cumbersome. Basically from a Soviet military arms fire sale. I seriously doubt they have any functional drums in their forces. They are prone to jams and are expensive to maintain and produce. The banana mag is cheaper easier to carry, load and reload.
 
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