NY State Wants To Treat 3D Printers As Guns

SuperChungus said:
curb your dementia next time, it's not that difficult
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A quick recap with you:
You:
You can cast with high tolerance.
Ok you can't cast with high tolerance.
Ok you can't use modern ammo/see later...
Oh wow after three days I found a gun with a cast iron barrel that is impossible for the average guy to make in his garage and use easily accessible ammo
When did I say you had to use modern ammo. (The limitations should be obvious)
and finally...

NO U!!!

Fuck even the fucked up jeoo @rodion makes more sense. Perhaps you can dunk on him and join the IDF where he failed.
 
Call Me Tim said:
A quick recap with you:
You:
You can cast with high tolerance.
Ok you can't cast with high tolerance.
Ok you can't use modern ammo/see later...
Oh wow after three days I found a gun with a cast iron barrel that is impossible for the average guy to make in his garage and use easily accessible ammo
When did I say you had to use modern ammo. (The limitations should be obvious)
and finally...

NO U!!!

Fuck even the fucked up jeoo @rodion makes more sense. Perhaps you can dunk on him and join the IDF where he failed.
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when did i mention ammo
literally all of my initial posts are on the first page of this thread

oh i'm sorry
i'm really sorry sir

i forgot you can't remember what you ate for dinner yesterday.
 
SuperChungus said:
when did i mention ammo
literally all of my initial posts are on the first page of this thread

oh i'm sorry
i'm really sorry sir

i forgot you can't remember what you ate for dinner yesterday.Y
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Your retarded argument was "they are going to ban torches because you can cast barrels."

I said no. Modern ammo is presumed because that is what is readily available. To hand craft a black powder firearm is beyond stupid, because you don't need to go through an FFL, they are relatively cheap and far safer than making one yourself.

But you continue to backpaddle harder dumplings nigga.
 
Call Me Tim said:
The register is meaningless, and will only inconvenience the 99% of 3D printer buyers.

There is already a forced serial number program on "ghost guns" and "ghost gun parts" are already banned. So if you want to buy gun parts kits most likely you'll have to go through an FFL in NY now.

You're not casting a barrel, bolt, trigger sear etc., these parts must be made to high tolerances and have wear and strength requirements.
Even if you could cast a rifle barrel out of mild steel, it would have to be so thick and heavy that it would hinder the ability of the shooter using it.
Any such barrel would limit the types of ammunition it could use. I am doubtful if someone can forge a barrel in their garage strong enough to withstand modern cartage pressures. So I'm guessing it would be black power at most.

Plus, you would still need a lathe to make sure the bore is straight and if you want rifling (though not vital but makes the process far easier).

But if they are background checking for printers, they'll have to ban lathes, mills, heavy duty hand drills, drill presses, grinders, etc., basically any motorized tool that can be converted into a motor for a homemade lathe., etc.
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Call Me Tim said:
Casting is not close enough tolerance for precision modern firearms.

You're not casting a barrel for modern smokeless powder. Due to uneven fill.
The pressure differences are far greater.
Smokeless powder often have pressures exceeding 50K PSI.
Black powder about 1/3 to half that.
The barrels would have to be forged.

It would be easier, safer and faster to just get round bar stock and drill out the center, then heat treat the steel.
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Call Me Tim said:
LOL ok. Are you trying to get spanked again? Then continue.


Backpedal harder bro. Again, you're not casting a barrel for modern cartridges. Period. I won't get into the details of why unless you want me too, I mean if you ever took 8th grade shop you would know but maybe you forgot/wasn't available.


Casting bullets is a non sequitur.
Bullets are not load/pressure parts of the firearm. The breach, throat and barrel are.

This is typical gubbermint Kabuki theater. This is a knee jerk over-reaction designed to create dialogue and pre-emptively plant the seed into people's mind that it would be acceptable for citizens to be further controlled. It will gain support from women and weak men, and might pass, but will get shot down in SCOTUS. The argument would be as you stated, what is the limit of what can be seen as a tool for firearm manufacture, and presuming that a citizen is going to use a common tool for "illegal" activities is a violation of their civil rights. When the true scope of that is presented, I doubt it will ever pass even in liberal NY. NYC maybe, but I seriously doubt not the entirety of the state. So what would be the effect of such a law if you can move out of NYC and then "legally" purchase tools and machinery? None so it's theater. Plus, you would also have to make personal modifications of ANY tool illegal. And that won't pass.
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Call Me Tim said:
Kind of a stretch to say the same could be applied to a common tool like a printer or lathe. They are trying to make it a safety concern but i'll wager the overwhelming majority of items created are not firearms related.

True. And they'll keep trying, but as long as people understand, that you have a right to make tools or make just about anything you want is your fundamental right.

We are in agreement.
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Call Me Tim said:
So they can steal the work.

yeah but there are other printer manufacturers and people are already shying away from bambu due to deterioration of services.
www.theverge.com

Here’s what Bambu will — and won’t — promise after its controversial 3D printer update

Users were pissed about Bambu Connect.
www.theverge.com www.theverge.com
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Shut up you old demented faggot
 
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